1991... the year of quality entertainment and quality games! |
After a more quiet year, Sierra came back with a vengeance. Space Quest, Police Quest, Leisure Suit Larry and Conquest -series all got new sequels, Space Quest 1 and Larry 1 were remade with better graphics, and completely new games, like Castle of Dr. Brain and EcoQuest were published. If you also count the games Dynamix made (Heart of China and Willy Beamish), the total rises to ten games, which is almost half of the adventure games that made it to our official gaming list. Of course, not all of these games were flawless, but even at their worst (Larry 5 and Police Quest 3) Sierra games had their moments and at their best (Space Quest 4 and Conquests of Longbow) they were unforgettable classics. Compared to Sierra, Lucasfilm again published only one game (Lechuck’s Revenge), but as could be expected, it was almost pure gold.
Sierra and Lucasfilm were getting more and more competition, but many of these attempts had great flaws and deserve to be forgotten (Les Manley 2 and Free D.C.! being good examples). The major exceptions were already established game developers: Access Software with Martian Memorandum, ICOM Simulations with Consulting Detective and Legend Entertainment with Timequest and Spellcasting 201. Interestingly, these three companies had somewhat different agendas. Access Software and ICOM Simulations pointed out the way for the future with the use of real actors and digitized speech, while Legend Entertainment was invigorating a thing of the past by doing text games in an era, when almost everyone else was doing pure point and click (another exception to this trend is Hugo II, but as a shareware game it doesn’t really count).
Another interesting trend was the rise of detective games.There were three pure detective adventures (Maupiti Island, Cruise for Corpse and Sherlock Holmes: The Consulting Detective), and if you count in also one hardboiled adventure (Martian Memorandum), one police adventure (Police Quest 3) and one shareware game with murder mystery elements (Hugo II), you get a total of six games dealing with criminal investigation.
Since it’s the end of the year, we will pick some examples of games we've played for special awards. But first, let's cash out the prizes for the Full House Awards.
No one figured out the exact order of Top 5 games of 1991, so half the prize (5 CAPs) will go to both Joe Pranevich and Corey Cole, who were clever enough to have the closest guess.
In addition to CAPs, we have a selection of Zojoi games to hand over as rewards - three Steam keys for Macventures Retro Bundle containing the classic versions of Deja Vu, Deja Vu II, Shadowgate, and The Uninvited, four keys for the 2014 remake of Shadowgate and three keys for the first Consulting Detective. The winners of Top 5, Bottom 5 or Full House, please indicate one of these keys as your prize in the comments.
The readers have had their say about the best game of 1991. The result could not have been more expected - the winner was Lechuck's Revenge with 96 votes (64 % of the total).
I am sure no one is surprised |
The best Missed Classic so far according to our readers is Cinemaware’s It Came From the Desert, an appreciation of all the B-class monster movies.
"On behalf of the Cinemaware Fan Club, I heartily accept this award." |
Let's move on to the awards chosen by our regular reviewers!
Instead of revealing the winner at first, like Trickster did, we'll begin each category with successful candidates and end with the final winner.
5th place - Martian Memorandum: While other companies were happy to earn money with hint lines and guide books, Access Software was bold enough to introduce an in-game hint system. Martian Memorandum was also one of the first games to use full motion video.
3rd place - Space Quest 4: Technically the voice narrated version of SQ4 didn’t appear until 1992, but it is still the best of its kind. We will especially remember the talent of recently deceased Gary Owens.
2nd place - Dr. Brain: While not really a traditional adventure game, Castle of Dr. Brain was an early example of a completely different genre, namely, that of pure puzzle adventure games. This would be almost a cause for awarding the game, if we wouldn't have played an even more evolutionary game.
Winner - Consulting Detective: And the title of the most evolutionary game goes to a computerised version of a board game that we had difficulties deciding what to call it - was it an adventure game or something else? In addition to defying genres, Consulting Detective was also technically innovative. The move to a solid FMV interface presages a lot of the games that will come in the 90s, as integrating video clips in games will become vogue for a while.
"Remember guys, we are doing history right now!" |
6th place - Killing the Dalek (Hugo 2): In a section completely unrelated to the rest of the game, you use a phone box to end up in an alien planet, shoot a Dalek and receive a sonic screwdriver from the Doctor. Talk about copyright infringement!
5th and 4th places (tied):
Saving Marie’s life (Police Quest 3): Every puzzle in the game was a meticulously designed paragon of logic triumphing over a chaotic and seemingly random world. In Police Quest III, the designers made a game that was almost TOO REAL in depicting how police detectives investigate and solve crimes. To qualify something like Police Quest III as a "game" is in and of itself slightly offensive, as Police Quest III is more of a reality simulator masquerading as computer-based entertainment. Still, it’s good that Jim Walls became a police officer and not a doctor. Not kissing Marie on the first day apparently condemns her to life in an incurable vegetative state.
Solving the mystery of the unfaithful wife (Timequest): The most ridiculous puzzle in the game was the one where the colors of the harem women matched the colors of the vizier's outfit, and somehow the player has to intuit that the woman matching his gloves is the guilty one. This puzzle can be bypassed by luck or brute force anyway (there are only six women in the harem), so its inclusion in the game was somewhat pointless.
3rd and 2nd places (tied):
Getting rid of a vampire (Elvira 2): Killing the pure-breed vampire makes no sense. You have to use a tuning fork to break a window to let sunlight in and kill the vampire. The only problem is that it is a moonless night, and there is no other way to kill the vampire.
Getting into a pawn shop (Les Manley 2): Wax casing for acidic Alien? Learning of a criminal plot, accusing someone of it and then being allowed into their movie studio? No, no. The most ridiculous puzzle in the game is definitely the first one. You need to impress 'The Boyz', a wannabe rap group out the front of a pawn shop. To do so, you speak to a computer hacker reminiscent of Jonny Lee Miller's character in 'Hackers' (given that he's apparently not allowed near a phone) who says that you 'need (gang) colors' to scare them off. You go to the beach, read a magazine headline to cause a solar eclipse and steal a lifeguard's bandana. No, this will not happen anyway, and it will literally not allow you to continue until you have stolen the bandana. Ridiculous, you say? You haven't seen the best.
Winner - Finding a firefly (Spellcasting 201): The entire sewer section was somewhat difficult in Spellcasting 201, never quite explaining itself well enough. The fact that there are 'locator goggles' that disappeared every time you went down there was bad enough, and the 'active nodes' to make the maze in it more difficult for no real reason other than copy protection? Bad enough. However, you need a light. Instead of giving you Magic Light or a torch, you have to go to the cafeteria, which the last game had set as a completely useless area with nothing going on in it, take a freely offered casserole during lunch hours (which the game all but tells you is useless), LOOK at it.. and then a firefly larva pops out of it. No clues offered. No 'there's a firefly in my soup!' gag. No 'firefly casserole and buffalo wings on menu'. Just 'why wouldn't they examine an object we tell them is a red herring?' AAAAARGH!
As a reward for their efforts, the good people in Legend will get a piece of their infamous casserole |
3rd place - Saved by a frog! (Willy Beamish): Most memorable moment is when you are "killed" (for the nth time) by Leona and Louis at her mansion. Just as the death animation plays and Willy is drowning in their oversized aquarium, Turbofrog swims down and rescues you (with Horny and Gigi in tow, depending on how you solved earlier puzzles). That immediately followed Gordon's surprising reveal to the press of the grand plot, underlining that the story and character threads were coming together in the end of the game.
2nd place - Intimate moment (Conquests of Longbow): Getting it on with Marian in the grove was handled in a very romantic manner--great dialogue. The game was filled with other memorable moments: Robin "blessing" the Sheriff, the entire Saturday Fair scene/archery contest, rescuing the knight from the fens monastery and escaping down the tower, freeing Fulk, and rescuing the boys. Hell, this whole game is a memorable moment. But not as memorable as the next one.
Winner - Back to square 1 (Space Quest 4): Wow, we are back in SQ1! Although the Kerona setting itself felt so empty, no true fan of the Space Quest series will fail to love this moment. And to top it all, it's drawn in a style reminiscent of the old EGA graphics.
Still, you can't beat monochrome! |
3rd place - Finding new things (Cruise for Corpse): The searching puzzles were awful. You could easily brute force them, but with dozens of items to interact with in every room (every towel in a closet had an individual description), it takes hours to search every cranny of every room. It's a way to pad out the time, but it adds nothing since there is no rhyme or reason for the objects to appear when they mysteriously did. Even the admission at the end that Niklos/Dimitry was pulling our leg and leaving clues on purpose doesn't paper over it.
2nd place - Opening a jewel box (Maupiti Island): a) Find peculiar symbols in a pirate cave. b) Notice that these symbols are actually numbers combined with their mirror images. c) Notice that a locked jewel box has the exact same inscription as the pirate cave. d) Notice that the symbols in the cave are plotted as locations in an inverted island map, which you see almost never. e) Read a passage in a book that appears to have no connection with the cave. f) Notice that the phrases in the book might be connected with places in the island. g) Fiddle with the order of the numbers, just because. h) Instead of numbers, use their sums. i) Change into a modular arithmetics, because otherwise you won’t make any sense of the sums. j) Presto, the jewel box opens! No wonder it took ages to solve this puzzle. And yet, it was almost solvable, unlike the next puzzle.
5th place - Fooling an ATM machine (Space Quest 4): The best puzzle in the game is the one involving an ATM card. Although maybe not amazing, it still involves a neat line of puzzle dependencies: you need to buy pants to get a job; you need a job to earn enough money for women’s clothing; you need women’s clothing to be able to use the ATM card. Some points must be deducted, because making fun of cross dressers is not polite.
4th place - Finding a password for Tower of Babylon (Timequest): The antagonist of the game had left to various historical locations taunting messages, all of which contained a number. Putting the first letters of these messages into an order indicated by the numbers, spelled out a password unlocking a passage to Tower of Babylon, where the endgame occurred.
3rd place - Getting an underage kid into a bar (Willy Beamish): The puzzle that truly surprised us was the one involving a cassette recorder. You have to somehow fool a doorman away from his post and the only thing you can do is to call him. It's all set up so that you have to record a show from the radio and play it back to the doorman. But it has a very nice curveball which is that you can also record other telephone conversations. You have to first phone an astrology service and then use that conversation to distract the doorman, who happens to be quite superstitious. That sort of lateral thinking was a nice change from otherwise simpler inventory puzzles.
2nd place - Programming robot heads (Dr. Brain): You might think that a game that began the puzzle genre, would have interesting and original puzzles, but many of them were ordinary math or logic puzzles. The puzzle where you had to program robot heads stood out from that crowd positively. Still, it wasn't good enough for the first prize.
Winner - Rescuing widow’s sons (Conquests of Longbow): We liked how Robin had to leave the coins on the guards' table in order for them to skedaddle and buy beer, letting Robin rescue the Widow's sons. In fact, that whole rescue sequence, involving getting the monk's clothes, getting the Abbott's beer, playing Nine Man's Morris to win the magic amethyst, befriending the barkeep to learn about the secret passage, infiltrating St. Mary's, having the drinking contest with the Abbott, stealing his puzzle box and the fire ring inside, and ultimately freeing the boys, was probably our favorite sequence of the game.
The unsuspecting guards find their TAG reward |
6th place - Brian Forbes (Police Quest 3): This highly disturbed individual did not just believe in alien invasion, he also kept a knife in his underpants, for crying out loud!
5th place - Latex Babes (Space Quest 4): Latex babes change from a teenage boy’s dream into their worst nightmare. We might not remember any of their names, but that shaver will haunt our dreams forever.
4th and 3rd place (tied):
Passionate Patti (Larry 5): Larry is the same lovable schmuck we've seen three times before, but Patti is the standout character in the game. Her jaded yet patriotic persona, constant sexual references, and street-smarts make her pretty interesting. Also, she's the only character with any agency, since Larry bumbles into things while Patti actually makes stuff happen. She takes out the bad guy at the end, after all.
Adam and His Oceanic Friends (EcoQuest): Adam himself was quite memorable, as a smart and plucky environmentalist kid. But the non-human characters beg for recognition too: Gregarious the airless manatee, the ever-rhyming Oracle, Narcissus the French blowfish, Professor Erroneous the turtle...most of the characters were quirky and fun in one way or another. But Adam gets the most screen time and the most lines, so in the end, he's the most characterized and the most memorable.
2nd place - Japanese tourist ninjas (Willy Beamish): They were only in it for one puzzle, but not many games ever made have had Japanese tourist ninjas as characters. Still, they were not the most memorable characters of the year.
Winner - Merry Men (Conquests of Longbow): Just like Trickster struggled with finding a single outstanding character in Monkey Island, similar problem occurs with Conquests of Longbow. The tough thing is that each character is so well written it's hard to pick favorites. Robin himself is drawn really well! We like how, when the action begins, he is growing weary of the outlaw lifestyle and wants to settle down with a good woman. But considering that Little John, Friar Tuck, Marian, Alan and Will are all equally memorable, there’s no other possibility but to choose the whole gang.
Who could resist these guys! |
4th place - Wattson (Free D.C.!): What could be worse than waking after thousand years sleep, when all your loved ones are dead, finding out that robots rule the world and being assigned to find a robot killer by them? Well, you could be given as a steed and as a companion a metallic My Little Pony lookalike, who has an annoyingly wheeny voice and who fails to get your superb jokes.
3rd place - Morales (Police Quest 3): This outstandingly useless companion does almost nothing else in the game but makes phone calls. Also, why the hell did she leave her locker combination written in her desk? Why not just carry that paper with her or commit those THREE NUMBERS to memory? And did we mention that Morales tries to kill Sonny Bonds at the end of the game?
2nd place - Horny (Willy Beamish): Horny is an outstanding frog whom Willy carries around with him everywhere. He manages to beat a German super athlete frog in a competition and earns Willy enough money to gain entrance to Nintari competition. Of course, Horny then has to get caught, but sidekicks do need to be rescued once in awhile. Still, he's not as memorable as a certain Merry Man.
Winner - Much the Miller’s son (Conquests of Longbow): Robin Hood has many great sidekicks: Little John, Will Scarlet, and Friar Tuck. They are Robin’s right-hand men - tough, smart, and willing to mix it up. They've got Robin's back. But since we’ve already covered the Merry Men as great characters, let’s look at a more negative sidekick - Much. We don't know if it's from the stories, but he's more there for comic relief. You quickly learn not to take any advice from this guy. Much even has the guts to suggest using wild boars for distracting guards. Boars???????? No wonder this plan ends miserably.
Rumor is, Robin Hood has considered replacing Much with an irritating owl |
4th place - Cruise for Corpse: Lion’s share of the game can hardly be called an adventure game as everything seems to focus on constant re-exploring of an uninspired and repetitive setting and collecting dialogue questions. Still, it was filled with adventure game red herrings. For a game with so much weight on interrogating suspects, the dialogue system is horrible. And how come a timed murder mystery has no tension?
3rd game - Free D.C.!: An almost puzzleless game with an infuriating maze and inane use of firearms, just to make the game longer. What’s worst, a game that was advertised as being full of stories was filled with nothing else but snarky dialogue with cardboard characters. And let’s not talk about the ending.
2nd game - Les Manley 2: A game with puzzles so easy they didn’t virtually exist or so obscure you’d not even call them puzzles. Les Manley 2 is full of stereotypes that are largely written poorly and the main character has all of the intrigue of a wet noodle. The game was credited as the first with digitised actors, but majority of the models look like they did it only for the money. And still, it wasn't the worst game of the year.
Winner (or loser) - Hugo 2: A murder mystery without any murder or mystery, full of padding, random events and red herrings. To top it all, the graphics look like they are made with Paint, when there’s sound, you wish there weren’t, and the interface is horrendous.
And this bridge could make even Sierra proud. |
3rd place - Space Quest 4: A well-balanced, beautiful to look at and solvable game which goes to great lengths to ensure that you can get all the way back to the beginning to find an item that you missed. Different time zones are distinctive and the idea of using sequels instead of dates is novel, but time travel related puzzles are sorely lacking.
2nd place - Conquests of Longbow: A game with a rich variety of well thought puzzles, which not only found a good balance between giving too much information and being too obtuse, but also allowed true multiple solutions. The story might not be that original, but that’s just to be expected in a Robin Hood game. The narrative has a thrust that never falters, and even revisiting areas feels fresh because of the on-going plot. Sherwood Forest and its surroundings are fantastic places to get lost in, and all the characters feel unique. All this greatness is covered with great, hand-painted graphics and catchy, evocative music. What’s more to ask? Well, there's one game it couldn't top.
Winner - Monkey Island 2: Although many of the puzzles made sense only retrospectively, the intricateness of puzzle dependencies more than makes up for this. The overall plot was full of classic Lucasarts moments, even if the ending didn’t feel quite as satisfying as it could have been. Still, it’s a great experience, it has lovely graphics with lots of details to look at, a well-worked dialogue system with many fun options to choose from, and evocative musical scores flow seamlessly thanks to iMuse.
Let's all party now! |
But that's not all! We have a brand new award to give.
3rd place - Aperama: We are the experts and we should know these things, but mistakes do happen. When speaking of later accomplishments of Dynamix, Aperama mentioned Blue Force, made by none other than infamous Jim Walls. The thing is, it wasn’t published by Dynamix, but by Tsunami, formed by former Sierra employees. After hearing this, they’ll probably send Brian Forbes after us.
2nd place - Alex: It’s a good thing that Alex hasn’t tried building a career in the world of nobility, because he clearly can’t tell a king from a duke. Unlike Alex suggested, it was the Duke of Austria who captured Richard Lionheart, not the king. Rumor is, European royalty have stopped sending official invitations to TAG reviewers because of this breach of etiquette. Yet, we've done worse.
1rst place - Ilmari: We couldn’t leave the blunder that inspired the whole award go unpunished. While trying to speak of Archie Goodwin, the famous sidekick of detective Nero Wolfe, Ilmari accidentally spelled his surname “Bunker” (yes, B and G are quite close to each other, but it’s still an incredible accident). While we are sure that Nero and Archie B. would quickly bond over pints, this crossover still waits its writer.
Those were the TAG awards for 1991! And just like last year, you’ll have a chance to guess the TOP 5 for the next year. If you can state which 5 games will be the best games of 1992, you’ll get 10 CAPs. You won’t have to know the exact ratings the games will get, but you do have to get the exact order of the top five games. If no one pinpoints the exact order, persons with closest guesses will get 5 CAPs as a reward.
You’ll also get to guess the BOTTOM 5. The rules and the prizes are same as in the TOP 5, but you’ll have to guess the five worst games of 1992, in the exact order.
And to top it all, you’ll also have a chance to compete for the FULL HOUSE. Guess the exact order of all the games of 1992. If you get them right, you’ll get the TOP 5 and BOTTOM 5 awards, but also 2 CAPs for each game not in TOP or BOTTOM 5. This year getting FULL HOUSE will thus mean a prize of 78 CAPs. Again, if no one gets the exact order right, persons with the closest guess will receive half of the total prize (39 CAPs).
For ease of reference, here are the games we’ll be playing in 1992:
Alone in the Dark
Amazon: Guardians of Eden
Bargon Attack
Batman Returns
Curse of Enchantia
The Dagger of Amon Ra
Dark Seed
Dune
Eternam
Fascination
Frederik Pohl's Gateway
Gobliiins
Hook
Hugo III: Jungle of Doom
Inca
Indiana Jones and the Fate of Atlantis
Inspector Gadget: Mission 1 - Global Terror!
The Island of Dr. Brain
KGB
King's Quest VI: Heir Today, Gone Tomorrow
The Koshan Conspiracy
L. A. Law Game
Leather Goddesses of Phobos! 2: Gas Pump Girls Meet the Pulsating Inconvenience from Planet X
The Legend of Kyrandia
The Lost Files of Sherlock Holmes: The Case of the Serrated Scalpel
Lure of the Temptress
Mixed Up Fairy Tales
Nippon Safes, Inc.
Police Quest: In Pursuit of the Death Angel (remake)
Putt-Putt Joins the Parade
Quest for Glory I: So You Want To Be A Hero (remake)
Quest for Glory III: Wages of War
Rex Nebular and the Cosmic Gender Bender
Ringworld: Revenge of the Patriarch
Rome: Pathway to Power
Sherlock Holmes Consulting Detective: Volume II
Spellcasting 301: Spring Break
Star Trek: 25th Anniversary
WaxWorks
Please make your guesses for TOP 5, BOTTOM 5 and FULL HOUSE in the comments for this post. The guesses should be made before the first two final ratings of the year 1992 will be published. The prizes for the winners will be handed at the end of the year 1992.
By taking part in the FULL HOUSE competition, you’ll also be automatically competing for STRAIGHTS. After a sequence of five games from the main game list has been completed, we’ll look at who has guessed closest the order of those five games. If someone got the exact order, she’ll be awarded 10 CAPs, otherwise, those with closest guesses get 5 CAPs.
Let the contests begin!
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ReplyDeleteEventually, yes. They were originally placeholders for Joe's Zork Marathon (the entries were combination of Twelve tasks of Hercules and Twelve Flatheads). Joe's plans have somewhat expanded from the original, so we'll have to reorganize the schedule eventually.
Delete(I made an updated version below of the deleted post because I forgot to include Alone in the Dark and L. A. Law game, so Ilmari's post is a response to that.)
Delete(That's the official story. Actually I borrowed a time machine, went into the future to read Laukku's question and returned into past to answer it.)
DeleteMy revised "plan" if you can call it that is to drop a new Zork game review every 4 or so completed games in 1992. That should get me to the end and finishing up early in 1993 even if I add some other stuff so should be on time for Return to Zork. We can adjust accordingly.
DeleteI also have some other Missed Classics to come out during 1992 so I won't just be playing Zork. Right now, I tentatively am considering "Adventureland" and "Cranston Manor". (The former because it and Zork I both represent a first attempt to scaling down the complexity of "Adventure" for a personal computer audience, the latter because I started the Hi-Res series and want to finish it eventually.) But honestly most of the Missed Classics I did were spur of the moment things, futzing around with a game and then realizing that I had enough notes to write a post or two.
At last, a best puzzle award! I was wondering whether there ever would be one or not.
ReplyDeleteTOP 5
The Lost Files of Sherlock Holmes: The Case of the Serrated Scalpel
Indiana Jones and the Fate of Atlantis
Quest for Glory I: So You Want To Be A Hero (remake)
King's Quest VI: Heir Today, Gone Tomorrow
Frederik Pohl's Gateway
FULL HOUSE
The Legend of Kyrandia
Ringworld: Revenge of the Patriarch
Lure of the Temptress
Sherlock Holmes Consulting Detective: Volume II
Police Quest: In Pursuit of the Death Angel (remake)
The Koshan Conspiracy
KGB
Star Trek: 25th Anniversary
Rex Nebular and the Cosmic Gender Bender
Inspector Gadget: Mission 1 - Global Terror!
Spellcasting 301: Spring Break
Amazon: Guardians of Eden
L. A. Law Game
Eternam
Putt-Putt Joins the Parade
Gobliiins
Dark Seed
Quest for Glory III: Wages of War
Leather Goddesses of Phobos! 2: Gas Pump Girls Meet the Pulsating Inconvenience from Planet X
Nippon Safes, Inc.
Mixed Up Fairy Tales
Dune
Hook
The Dagger of Amon Ra
Alone in the Dark
WaxWorks
Batman Returns
Inca
The Island of Dr. Brain
BOTTOM 5
Rome: Pathway to Power
Fascination
Bargon Attack
Hugo III: Jungle of Doom
Curse of Enchantia
Does getting into 1992 BTW mean that you're getting rid of the weird placeholder entries in the game list?
I answered your question even before you made it! ;)
DeleteOooh! Let's do this!!
ReplyDeleteTOP 5:
Indiana Jones and the Fate of Atlantis
King's Quest VI: Heir Today, Gone Tomorrow
The Island of Dr. Brain
Quest for Glory III: Wages of War
Quest for Glory I: So You Want To Be A Hero (remake)
FULL HOUSE:
Alone in the Dark
The Legend of Kyrandia
The Dagger of Amon Ra
Gobliiins
Dune
Lure of the Temptress
Putt-Putt Joins the Parade
Police Quest: In Pursuit of the Death Angel (remake)
Mixed Up Fairy Tales
Frederik Pohl's Gateway
Sherlock Holmes Consulting Detective: Volume II
L. A. Law Game
The Lost Files of Sherlock Holmes: The Case of the Serrated Scalpel
Amazon: Guardians of Eden
Fascination
Spellcasting 301: Spring Break
Rex Nebular and the Cosmic Gender Bender
Eternam
Rome: Pathway to Power
Curse of Enchantia
Ringworld: Revenge of the Patriarch
KGB
Inca
Star Trek: 25th Anniversary
The Koshan Conspiracy
WaxWorks
Inspector Gadget: Mission 1 - Global Terror!
Bargon Attack
Dark Seed
BOTTOM 5:
Nippon Safes, Inc.
Leather Goddesses of Phobos! 2: Gas Pump Girls Meet the Pulsating Inconvenience from Planet X
Batman Returns
Hugo III: Jungle of Doom
Hook
I am going to suck at this terribly. I have not played most of these games and there are more than a few that I've not heard of outside the blog...
ReplyDeleteTOP 5:
King's Quest VI: Heir Today, Gone Tomorrow
Quest for Glory III: Wages of War
Indiana Jones and the Fate of Atlantis
The Lost Files of Sherlock Holmes: The Case of the Serrated Scalpel
The Dagger of Amon Ra
The MIDDLE:
Quest for Glory I: So You Want To Be A Hero (remake)
Alone in the Dark
The Island of Dr. Brain
The Legend of Kyrandia
Curse of Enchantia
Police Quest: In Pursuit of the Death Angel (remake)
Rex Nebular and the Cosmic Gender Bender
Mixed Up Fairy Tales
Amazon: Guardians of Eden
Sherlock Holmes Consulting Detective: Volume II
Gobliiins
WaxWorks
Star Trek: 25th Anniversary
Rome: Pathway to Power
Inspector Gadget: Mission 1 - Global Terror!
Dark Seed
Spellcasting 301: Spring Break
Putt-Putt Joins the Parade
Frederik Pohl's Gateway
Lure of the Temptress
KGB
Eternam
Ringworld: Revenge of the Patriarch
Dune
The Koshan Conspiracy
Inca
Fascination
Hook
BOTTOM 5:
Leather Goddesses of Phobos! 2
Nippon Safes, Inc.
Bargon Attack
L. A. Law Game
Hugo III: Jungle of Doom
Joe: You missed one! Where do you want to place Batman Returns?
DeleteI think it was supposed to be just under "Hook". I personally hope it will do better because I'm the one playing it, but realistically I'm not sure how good it could be.
DeleteCastle of Dr. Brain did manage to spawn a genre of its own, that is, pure puzzle adventure games.
ReplyDeleteDon't get me wrong: I kowtow at the supreme altar of the Coles and every project they touched. That said, Does Dr. Brain really meet any strong adventure criteria beyond being developed and published by a traditional adventure game company? I'm wondering what makes its string-of-puzzles format more history-making here than, say, Cliff Johnson's 1987 "The Fool's Errand" (which, hm, I also don't think would be described as an adventure 8)
I changed the wording to "help to spawn", since clearly Dr. Brain wasn't the first of its kind. It could be argued that a puzzle game, released by a renowned adventure game company and using the same interface as the traditional adventure games of that same company, did help to get more people appreciate puzzle games.
DeleteAs for Dr. Brain being an adventure game, well, that's what Mobygames says and we do tend to believe it ;)
Your comment does suggest to me that perhaps the Most Evolutionary Game Award is a bit problematic. After all, The Adventure Gamer has always covered only a portion of all adventure games, so perhaps picking examples of games we have played as most important for the evolution of adventure games might be historically inaccurate. What does everyone think?
I changed the wording to "help to spawn", since clearly Dr. Brain wasn't the first of its kind
DeleteWas there a big boom of puzzle games in its wake? Off the top of my head I can think of Hodj 'n Podj, which was probably more in keeping with the Fool's Errand tradition. Lots of puzzly Myst-alikes (eg. the 7th Guest) followed Myst, but surely that simply built on Cyan's earlier Manhole, Cosmic Osmo, Spelunx etc. Whether Dr. Brain spawned any kind of lineage is an interesting question with a not at all obvious or straightforward answer. The Dr. Brain brand actually lived on quite a bit after the extinction of classic Sierra, but the Sierra we all know and love didn't really release any further non-Dr. Brain games in this format... nor did any of its main competitors or imitators like Lucasfilm, Tsunami etc., right?
As for Dr. Brain being an adventure game, well, that's what Mobygames says and we do tend to believe it ;)
If we measure it against the adventure-game hallmarks of inventory problems, dialogue puzzles, and exploration / navigation challenges, I think we may find it has been miscategorized. (I've spent most of the past decade there and can testify that the process by which its sausage is made isn't always a pretty one 8)
Maybe it's more accurate to say that Dr. Brain is a puzzle game in an adventure game engine? After all, it's basically using the normal Sierra interface, and it does require some adventure-style interaction (first-person movement between rooms, a few instances of inventory manipulation, examining objects for more information, etc). So it counts as an adventure game because that's the engine it's presented in, but it's a puzzle game because that's the primary mode of gameplay.
DeleteI don't think the award is a problem if we consider that all the awards are relative to the subset of games played. Asking "Out of the games we played from this year, which one contributed the most to the evolution of adventure games?" is a valid question, just as much as "Out of the games we played this year, which one had the best puzzle?" We're not being as rigorous as the Digital Antiquarian or the CRPG Addict, so it's not really a problem if there was a game we didn't play that had an example of something more innovative.
Besides, the games that are the most innovative relative to adventure games are likely to be the ones most on the fringes of the definition and thus less likely to be played anyway. Given how muddy the definition is, it's reasonable that we've set our criteria and then evaluate just the subset of games chosen. Even the CRPG Addict had to set criteria to define the games he would play, since "role-playing game" isn't any less muddy a concept than "adventure". I think his criteria are better-defined, though. It might be worth thinking about better criteria to define the adventure game genre more clearly (without using arbitrary rules about reviews on game sites and such), but I won't attempt to do that in this comment.
Rowan: I bow to your superior historical knowledge, so I've adjusted the wording even further.
DeleteReiko: We have that awkward phrase "being unquestionably an adventure game" in our criteria - if we wanted, we could use that to restrict the number of potential candidates for main games. Personally, I am just so into all these fringe cases that I've been quite inclusive in my choices, when making up a list of games for Year Ahead posts. Indeed, I value such originality more than mere technical innovations, when it comes to the question of "evolutionarity" - this might well be the reason why Dr. Brain did so well with the proceedings.
[For those curious to know, I might detail the process by which we decided the various awards. Firstly, after having played a game, the reviewers were presented with a series of questions (did they find any good puzzles in the game, did they think the game moved the development of adventure game genre forward, did they think the game deserved to be in the top games of the year etc.) - most of these answers ended up right there in the post, with some emendations and rephrasings, if necessary. To determine the relative order of these candidates, we held a poll among the reviewers. Of each category, only the topmost candidates were selected for the post.]
The truth is that we've broadened the base so far that we could very easily end up with some games that don't really hit the generic definition of 'adventure'. For instance, we could start listing every game for the year that has over 20 votes on Mobygames as Disregarded. As Doom has inventory puzzles (keycards), I could argue that it is an adventure game. I don't think this, I should hasten to add. :) In this same manner, the majority of our awards are going to have a degree of opinion over solid fact to them. For instance, I don't personally think that the iMuse system was particularly revolutionary.. for the simple reason that the only people who ever tried it in the 90s were Lucasarts themselves - other people used mood music, sure, but nothing like the detail of 'adding and removing instruments' that the MI team did.
DeleteRight, I'm saying that the phrase "being unquestionably an adventure game" could be defined better, but that's not a discussion for the comments here, I don't think. I'll send a message later with my thoughts in more detail to avoid any more derailment here.
DeleteWhen I try to personally define 'adventure game' it's on a simple scale. I categorize all games as "Adventure" "Action" "Strategy" or "RPG" so for me puzzle games of all kinds fits in the 'adventure' category.
DeleteFor this blog however we concentrate on "graphic adventure games" which could have a number of definitions in itself but is clearly one of 'we all know them when we see them'
With multiple reviewers though we've become much more inclusive and included games that for one person would just 'get in the way' of ever completing the project so Trickster was much less inclusive purely to make the task more manageable with a possibility of actually finishing it.
Of course, CRPG Addict went the other way and kept adding games to his already herculean list.
All right, let's see how well I'll do this time (most of this is pure guess work):
ReplyDeleteTop 5:
1. Indiana Jones and the Fate of Atlantis
2. Quest for Glory III: Wages of War
3. The Dagger of Amon Ra
4. The Lost Files of Sherlock Holmes: The Case of the Serrated Scalpel
5. Quest for Glory I: So You Want To Be A Hero (remake)
The middle:
6. King's Quest VI: Heir Today, Gone Tomorrow
7. Frederik Pohl's Gateway
8. Star Trek: 25th Anniversary
9. KGB
10. The Legend of Kyrandia
11. Police Quest: In Pursuit of the Death Angel (remake)
12. Sherlock Holmes Consulting Detective: Volume II
13. Lure of the Temptress
14. Hook
15. Curse of Enchantia
16. Inspector Gadget: Mission 1 - Global Terror!
17. Spellcasting 301: Spring Break
18. The Island of Dr. Brain
19. Alone in the Dark
20. Gobliiins
21. Ringworld: Revenge of the Patriarch
22. Dark Seed
23. Batman Returns
24. Putt-Putt Joins the Parade
25. Mixed Up Fairy Tales
26. Rex Nebular and the Cosmic Gender Bender
27. Bargon Attack
28. Inca
29. Nippon Safes, Inc.
30. WaxWorks
31. Rome: Pathway to Power
32. Dune
33. Amazon: Guardians of Eden
34. Eternam
Bottom 5:
35. Fascination
36. Leather Goddesses of Phobos! 2: Gas Pump Girls Meet the Pulsating Inconvenience from Planet X
37. The Koshan Conspiracy
38. L. A. Law Game
39. Hugo III: Jungle of Doom
Again thanks to you guys for your commitment to this site. I think we all appreciate it very much.
ReplyDeleteThanks! We wouldn't do it, if we wouldn't have such a great community of readers.
DeletePossibly a dumb question, but is there a way to subscribe to the blog through e-mail? (I'm afraid that if I just stick to the RSS, I might end up missing posts.)
ReplyDeleteYour wish is our command! I've added a "subscribe by e-mail" widget to the left column.
DeleteWooooo!! You're awesome; thank you!!
DeleteOK, since I was so unsuccesful last time, I've not put a huge amount of effort into the order here because I'm always wrong anyway so lets see if random chance can help me out. The top 5 are more carefully picked though, and surely Hugo will be at the bottom.
ReplyDeleteTOP 5:
1. Indiana Jones and the Fate of Atlantis
2. King's Quest VI: Heir Today, Gone Tomorrow
3. The Legend of Kyrandia
4. The Lost Files of Sherlock Holmes: The Case of the Serrated Scalpel
5. The Dagger of Amon Ra
FULL HOUSE:
6. Star Trek: 25th Anniversary
7. Gobliiins
8. Dark Seed
9. Alone in the Dark
10. Quest for Glory I: So You Want To Be A Hero (remake)
11. Police Quest: In Pursuit of the Death Angel (remake)
12. Dune
13. Lure of the Temptress
14. Quest for Glory III: Wages of War
15. Sherlock Holmes Consulting Detective: Volume II
16. KGB
17. Spellcasting 301: Spring Break
18. Curse of Enchantia
19. The Island of Dr. Brain
20. Mixed Up Fairy Tales
21. Eternam
22. Nippon Safes, Inc.
23. Amazon: Guardians of Eden
24. Frederik Pohl's Gateway
25. Leather Goddesses of Phobos! 2: Gas Pump Girls Meet the Pulsating Inconvenience from Planet X
26. Fascination
27. Ringworld: Revenge of the Patriarch
28. The Koshan Conspiracy
29. WaxWorks
30. Inca
31. Rome: Pathway to Power
32. Rex Nebular and the Cosmic Gender Bender
33. Bargon Attack
34. Batman Returns
Bottom 5:
35. Hook
36. Inspector Gadget: Mission 1 - Global Terror!
37. Putt-Putt Joins the Parade
38. L. A. Law Game
39. Hugo III: Jungle of Doom
So many games for this next year though! Looking forward to it already!
>surely Hugo will be at the bottom.
DeleteYou guys are all overestimating Curse of Enchantia because it has pwetty gwaphics. It's like a (1+1+1+7+1+1)/0,6=20 game at best, and many of those 1's could even be 0's.
Then again, some of the 1991 games I'm unfamiliar with could be even worse.
Was it so bad? Then again, I keep confusing it with Lure of the Temptress in my mind, so you might be right.
DeletePersonally, I suspect that L.A. Law might just beat Hugo III. I mean, the idea of making a law show into an adventure game just sounds like a catastrophe.
I seem to recall both Lure and Curse having some poor puzzles, and I could probably have put them lower but I don't really remember them very much.
DeleteThere's quite a few on the list that I've either not played, or played so long ago that I have no idea how much they'll score. So, lots of uninformed guesswork!
I've actually played neither but I've watched Yahtzee's Let's Play of Enchantia. It's a random mess.
DeleteLure is pretty bad, but Enchantia is abhorrent. At least that's the impression that lingered after playing it 20+ years ago.
DeleteI played Lure of the Temptress once and HATED it. I also hated Legend of Kyrandia though which I think is generally much more liked.
DeleteI don't really understand what people see in the Kyrandia series. I was quickly bored by all the "get 7 gems of 5 different colours" puzzles.
DeleteYeah, the first one had some quite bad puzzles and an annoying maze (but not as bad as the one in Pandora Directive). The second one, aside from the recurring Simon Says, had much better puzzle design. I haven't played the third one yet. But they do have a certain charm, and good pixel art and music - and a pretty unique interface.
DeleteAnd before I forget, I'd like the 2014 remake of Shadowgate, please.
ReplyDeleteI would be delighted to play the Shadowgate remake on Steam also. Looks like it has some great Steam achievements. Thank you!
DeleteReiko, I believe you get two prizes. (For both bottom and full house.) Do you have a choice for your second?
DeleteLaukku, we don't have an email on file for you and I at least don't have access to see it through Blogger. Can you drop a mail to the admin email in the left nav (by "what's your story") and we'll send the keys to you that way.
Delete(Same goes for Corey Cole unless one of the other admins already has your contact info.)
I got the game redeemed. Thanks!
DeleteI got your emails. Thanks so much!
DeleteSo, as you know I don't play adventure games, and I'm very much out of the loop. However, my list is:
ReplyDeleteTOP FIVE
Indiana Jones and the Fate of Atlantis
Quest for Glory I: So You Want To Be A Hero (remake)
King's Quest VI: Heir Today, Gone Tomorrow
Lure of the Temptress
Star Trek: 25th Anniversary
THE MIDDLE BIT
Quest for Glory III: Wages of War
Dune
The Dagger of Amon Ra
Alone in the Dark
Eternam
Frederik Pohl's Gateway
Gobliiins
Dark Seed
Fascination
Hook
Inca
The Island of Dr. Brain
KGB
The Koshan Conspiracy
The Legend of Kyrandia
The Lost Files of Sherlock Holmes: The Case of the Serrated Scalpel
Nippon Safes, Inc.
Police Quest: In Pursuit of the Death Angel (remake)
Rex Nebular and the Cosmic Gender Bender
Ringworld: Revenge of the Patriarch
Rome: Pathway to Power
Sherlock Holmes Consulting Detective: Volume II
L. A. Law Game
Amazon: Guardians of Eden
Bargon Attack
Batman Returns
WaxWorks
Curse of Enchantia
Inspector Gadget: Mission 1 - Global Terror!
BOTTOM GIVE
Leather Goddesses of Phobos! 2: Gas Pump Girls Meet the Pulsating Inconvenience from Planet X
Mixed Up Fairy Tales
Putt-Putt Joins the Parade
Spellcasting 301: Spring Break
Hugo III: Jungle of Doom
(Also I'm tempted to try playing Putt-Putt along with whomever runs it. I don't think I know enough about adventure games to write a review.)
Canageek,
DeleteWe'd love to have you contribute a review if you think you're up to it! Nothing like having to write a review to inspire us to do the research... I'm not sure if that one is taken yet. I think we recommend that you try your hand at a Missed Classic first to see how you like writing to a schedule.
I agree heartily with Joe's sentiments. No one has yet reserved Putt-Putt for themselves so feel free to take it Canageek! I am guessing that as a children's game Putt-Putt will be extremely short, so we might even be lenient on the recommendation of trying first a Missed Classic.
DeleteKeep in mind: I don't really play adventure games, so I wouldn't have anything to base my ratings on, so I don't think that would be fair. I'll try and catch up with my blog reading, then play along. Might even Let's Play it, since I suspect it will take under an hour.
DeleteHere's my Full House list:
ReplyDeleteTop 5:
1. Indiana Jones and the Fate of Atlantis
2. Quest for Glory I: So You Want To Be A Hero (remake)
3. Quest for Glory III: Wages of War
4. King's Quest VI: Heir Today, Gone Tomorrow
5. The Dagger of Amon Ra
Full House:
6. Frederik Pohl's Gateway
7. Star Trek: 25th Anniversary
8. Sherlock Holmes Consulting Detective: Volume II
9. Alone in the Dark
10. Dune
11. Police Quest: In Pursuit of the Death Angel (remake)
12. Rex Nebular and the Cosmic Gender Bender
13. The Legend of Kyrandia
14. Spellcasting 301: Spring Break
15. Gobliiins
16. Bargon Attack
17. KGB
18. Amazon: Guardians of Eden
19. WaxWorks
20. Eternam
21. The Island of Dr. Brain
22. Lure of the Temptress
23. Hook
24. Dark Seed
25. Rome: Pathway to Power
26. The Lost Files of Sherlock Holmes: The Case of the Serrated Scalpel
27. Ringworld: Revenge of the Patriarch
28. Inca
29. Batman Returns
30. Inspector Gadget: Mission 1 - Global Terror!
31. Nippon Safes, Inc.
32. Curse of Enchantia
33. Mixed Up Fairy Tales
34. Putt-Putt Joins the Parade
Bottom 5:
35. The Koshan Conspiracy
36. L. A. Law Game
37. Fascination
38. Hugo III: Jungle of Doom
39. Leather Goddesses of Phobos! 2
For my part, I didn't know at all about a third of the games on this list. The only "cheat" I allowed myself was to look up screenshots. So I have a feeling that I'm going to be nailed pretty hard if there are nice looking games that suck here... :)
ReplyDeleteSo after a strong start, I came out empty-handed for 1991's categories. :-(
ReplyDeleteAnd apparently I managed to complete Conquests of the Longbow while completely skipping/missing its best puzzle!
But man 1992 looks exciting. Only a couple of names I don't recognize, stiff competition for the top 5 and lots of games in the middle tier that I didn't get to play back in the day. So for the top 5, except for a certain game which should be a shoe-in for the first place, I'll just focus on the other games' pedigree. I'm tempted to put Alone in the Dark there but I feel its focus on action and the dated graphics will ultimately detract too many points.
TOP 5:
1. Indiana Jones and the Fate of Atlantis
2. Quest for Glory 1 Remake
3. King's Quest VI: Heir Today, Gone Tomorrow
4. Quest for Glory III: Wages of War
5. The Dagger of Amon Ra
BOTTOM 5:
35: Rome: Pathway to Power
36: Fascination
37: Inspector Gadget
38: Curse of Enchantia
39: Hugo III: Jungle of Doom
Even if you aren't sure, putting in a Full House guess also enters you into winning the straights-- getting the relative positions correct of five games at a time.
DeleteSo if, for example, you think you can guess at the relative rankings of our first five, it's worth building a big list:
Game 74: Mixed Up Fairy Tales (1992)
Game 75: Star Trek: 25th Anniversary (1992)
Game 76: Hugo III: Jungle of Doom (1992)
Game 77: Eternam (1992)
Game 78: Frederik Pohl's Gateway (1992)
Thanks for the suggestion, Joe!
DeleteHere's my middle tier then:
6. The Lost Files of Sherlock Holmes: The Case of the Serrated Scalpel
7. Star Trek: 25th Anniversary
8. Police Quest: In Pursuit of the Death Angel (remake)
9. Alone in the Dark
10. Amazon: Guardians of Eden
11. Frederik Pohl's Gateway
12. KGB
13. The Legend of Kyrandia
14. Rex Nebular and the Cosmic Gender Bender
15. Sherlock Holmes Consulting Detective: Volume II
16. The Island of Dr. Brain
17. Ringworld: Revenge of the Patriarch
18. Spellcasting 301: Spring Break
19. Mixed Up Fairy Tales
20. Lure of the Temptress
21. Dark Seed
22. Hook
23. Nippon Safes, Inc.
24. Dune
25. WaxWorks
26. Putt-Putt Joins the Parade
27. The Koshan Conspiracy
28. Gobliiins
29. Inca
30. Batman Returns
31. Bargon Attack
32. L. A. Law Game
33. Eternam
34. Leather Goddesses of Phobos! 2
List for 1992:
ReplyDeleteTop Five:
1) The Lost Files of Sherlock Holmes: The Case of the Serrated Scalpel
2) Indiana Jones and the Fate of Atlantis
3) Kings Quest VI: Heir Today, Gone Tomorrow
4) The Dagger of Amon Ra
5) Star Trek: 25th Anniversary
Full House:
6) Quest for Glory I: So You Want To Be A Hero (Remake)
7) Quest for Glory III: Wages of War
8) Frederik Pohl´s Gateway
9) Lure of the Temptress
10) Police Quest: In Pursuit of the Death Angel (Remake)
11) The Legend of Kyrandia
12) Sherlock Holmes Consulting Detective: Volume II
13) Alone in the Dark
14) Dark Seed
15) Spellcasting 301: Spring Break
16) Batman Returns
17) Gobliiins
18) WaxWorks
19) Amazon: Guardians of Eden
20) Leather Goddesses of Phobos! 2
21) KGB
22) Rome: Pathway to Power
23) Eternam
24) Rex Nebular and the Cosmic Gender Bender
25) Dune
26) The Island of Dr. Brain
27) Ringworld: Revenge of the Patriarch
28) Inspector Gadget: Mission 1 - Global Terror!
29) Inca
30) Mixed Up Fairy Tales
31) Nippon Safes Inc.
32) Fascination
33) Bargon Attack
34) Curse of Enchantia
Bottom 5:
35) Putt-Putt Joins the Parade
36) Hook
37) L.A. Law Game
38) Hugo III: Jungle of Doom
39) The Koshan Conspiracy
Actually that was pure guesswork, I hope that Koshan Conspiracy is as bad as B.A.T. and that The Lost Files of Sherlock Holmes is as good as it sounds;)
Mine if it's not too late! I'm tempted to put Legend of Kyrandia and Bargon Attack in my Top 5 considering I'll be reviewing them but I think the regulators gang won't let me go away with it ;)
ReplyDeleteSo here is my list :
TOP 5
Indiana Jones and the Fate of Atlantis
King's Quest VI: Heir Today, Gone Tomorrow
Quest for Glory I: So You Want To Be A Hero (remake)
Alone in the Dark
The Lost Files of Sherlock Holmes: The Case of the Serrated Scalpel
FULL HOUSE
Star Trek: 25th Anniversary
The Legend of Kyrandia
Lure of the Temptress
Quest for Glory III: Wages of War
The Dagger of Amon Ra
Sherlock Holmes Consulting Detective: Volume II
The Island of Dr. Brain
KGB
Dark Seed
Frederik Pohl's Gateway
Gobliiins
Eternam
Inca
Nippon Safes, Inc.
Police Quest: In Pursuit of the Death Angel (remake)
Rex Nebular and the Cosmic Gender Bender
WaxWorks
Dune
Ringworld: Revenge of the Patriarch
Rome: Pathway to Power
Amazon: Guardians of Eden
The Koshan Conspiracy
Hook
Fascination
Bargon Attack
Spellcasting 301: Spring Break
Batman Returns
Leather Goddesses of Phobos! 2: Gas Pump Girls Meet the Pulsating Inconvenience from Planet X
Putt-Putt Joins the Parade
BOTTOM 5
Mixed Up Fairy Tales
Inspector Gadget: Mission 1 - Global Terror!
L. A. Law Game
Curse of Enchantia
Hugo III: Jungle of Doom
Worth trying for straights anyway :)
You are perfectly on time! The guesses can be made all the way to the second rating post of the year.
DeleteFinally, games I've actually played… well, 3 played and around 7 tried out... Damn it, how am I supposed to roll the dice to get the right order? Guess I just have to guess.
ReplyDeleteTop 5
Indiana Jones and the Fate of Atlantis
King's Quest VI: Heir Today, Gone Tomorrow
The Dagger of Amon Ra
Quest For Glory I: So You Want To Be A Hero
Quest of Glory III: Wages of War
Middle
The Legend of Kyrandia
Star Trek: 25th Anniversary
Sherlock Holmes Consulting Detective: Volume II
Police Quest I: In Pursuit of Death Angel
Ringworld: Revenge of the Patriarch
Dark Seed
Putt-Putt joins the parade
Alone in the Dark
The Lost Files of Sherlock Holmes: The Case of the Serrated Scalpel
Batman Returns
Lure of the Temptress
Curse of Enchantia
Dune
Eternam
Frederik Pohl’s Gateway
Nippon Safes, Inc
Bargon Attack
Amazon: Guardians of Eden
Gobliiins
Hook
Mixed Up Fairy Tales
Inca
Inspector Gadget: Mission 1 - Global Terror!
The Island of Dr. Brain
Rex Nebular and the Cosmic Gender Bender
KGB
The Koshan Conspiracy
L.A. Law Game
Waxwork
Bottom 5
Rome: Pathway to Power
Dune
Fascination
Leather Goddesses of Phobos! 2: Gas Pump Girls Meet the Pulsating Inconvenience form Planet X
Hugo III: Jungle of Dome
Have you noticed that you've put Dune to two places? And that you haven't put Spellcasting 301 anywhere?
DeleteMissed that, thanks for the notification. Then I've have to strike Dune from the middle list and replace that with Spellcasting 301... or do you want me to type out a complete list?
DeleteJust say which Dune is supposed to be "Spellcasting" and Ilmari can put it in the spreadsheet.
DeleteSo it's the one in the middle list that should be changed. Consider it done!
DeleteThanks, sorry for the trouble.
DeleteOk, here goes.
ReplyDeleteTop 5
Indiana Jones and the Fate of Atlantis
Quest for Glory III: Wages of War
King's Quest VI: Heir Today, Gone Tomorrow
Quest for Glory I: So You Want To Be A Hero (remake)
The Dagger of Amon Ra
Middle
The Lost Files of Sherlock Holmes: The Case of the Serrated Scalpel
KGB
Lure of the Temptress
Spellcasting 301: Spring Break
The Legend of Kyrandia
Gobliiins
Police Quest: In Pursuit of the Death Angel (remake)
Dune
Sherlock Holmes Consulting Detective: Volume II
Batman Returns
Dark Seed
The Island of Dr. Brain
Mixed Up Fairy Tales
Curse of Enchantia
Nippon Safes, Inc.
Star Trek: 25th Anniversary
Alone in the Dark
Rex Nebular and the Cosmic Gender Bender
Amazon: Guardians of Eden
Frederik Pohl's Gateway
Rome: Pathway to Power
The Koshan Conspiracy
Eternam
Putt-Putt Joins the Parade
Leather Goddesses of Phobos! 2: Gas Pump Girls Meet the Pulsating Inconvenience from Planet X
Inca
Bargon Attack
Inspector Gadget: Mission 1 - Global Terror!
Ringworld: Revenge of the Patriarch
Bottom 5
Hook
WaxWorks
L. A. Law Game
Fascination
Hugo III: Jungle of Doom
Huuuge amounts of guesswork here, but it seems like I'm in sync with most others here regarding the Sierra/Lucasarts factor in the top 5
Although there's still lot of time to make guesses for the Full House, I've gathered those given until now to a spreadsheet:
ReplyDeletehttps://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1mV6K-US-k92ThXedoe9AL69KyvR76UdVtpF8NmIVe6E/
If anyone sees any mistakes I've made, just let us know!
Top 5
ReplyDelete1. Indiana Jones and the Fate of Atlantis
2. King's Quest VI: Heir Today, Gone Tomorrow
3. The Dagger of Amon Ra
4. Quest for Glory I: So You Want To Be A Hero (remake)
5. The Legend of Kyrandia
Full House:
6. Quest for Glory III: Wages of War
7. Star Trek: 25th Anniversary
8. Police Quest: In Pursuit of the Death Angel (remake)
9. Sherlock Holmes Consulting Detective: Volume II
10. Rex Nebular and the Cosmic Gender Bender
11. Frederik Pohl's Gateway
12. Spellcasting 301: Spring Break
13. Gobliiins
14. The Island of Dr. Brain
15. Dark Seed
16. Bargon Attack
17. KGB
18. Dune
19. WaxWorks
20. Alone in the Dark
21. Eternam
22. Lure of the Temptress
23. Nippon Safes, Inc.
24. Hook
25. Mixed Up Fairy Tales
26. Rome: Pathway to Power
27. The Lost Files of Sherlock Holmes: The Case of the Serrated Scalpel
28. Ringworld: Revenge of the Patriarch
29. Putt-Putt Joins the Parade
30. Amazon: Guardians of Eden
31. Inca
32. Batman Returns
33. Inspector Gadget: Mission 1 - Global Terror!
34. Curse of Enchantia
Bottom 5:
35. Fascination
36. The Koshan Conspiracy
37. L. A. Law Game
38. Leather Goddesses of Phobos! 2
39. Hugo III: Jungle of Doom
Top 5
ReplyDelete1. Star Trek: 25th Anniversary
2. Sherlock Holmes Consulting Detective: Volume II
3. King's Quest VI: Heir Today, Gone Tomorrow
4. Quest for Glory I: So You Want To Be A Hero (remake)
5. Indiana Jones and the Fate of Atlantis
The Middle
6. Alone in the Dark
7. Leather Goddesses of Phobos! 2: Gas Pump Girls Meet the Pulsating Inconvenience from Planet X
8. Hook
9. Putt-Putt Joins the Parade
10. Lure of the Temptress
11. The Legend of Kyrandia
12. L. A. Law Game
13. Frederik Pohl's Gateway
14. Nippon Safes, Inc.
15. Mixed Up Fairy Tales
16. KGB
17. Police Quest: In Pursuit of the Death Angel (remake)
18. Fascination
19. The Island of Dr. Brain
20. Gobliiins
21. Ringworld: Revenge of the Patriarch
22. Rex Nebular and the Cosmic Gender Bender
23. WaxWorks
24. Rome: Pathway to Power
Bottom 5
25. The Koshan Conspiracy
26. Spellcasting 301: Spring Break
27. Batman Returns
28. Hugo III: Jungle of Doom
29. Eternam
Mr.Valdez: There's 10 games missing from your list! They are:
DeleteBargon Attack
Dune
Dark Seed
Dagger of Amon Ra
Lost Files of Sherlock Holmes
Inspector Gadget
Quest for Glory III
Amazon: Guardians of the Eden
Curse of Enchantia
Inca
*Egads*
DeleteHere's my updated list:
Top 5
1. Star Trek: 25th Anniversary
2. Sherlock Holmes Consulting Detective: Volume II
3. King's Quest VI: Heir Today, Gone Tomorrow
4. Quest for Glory I: So You Want To Be A Hero (remake)
5. Indiana Jones and the Fate of Atlantis
The Middle
6. Alone in the Dark
7. Dark Seed
8. Dune
9. Lost Files of Sherlock Holmes
10. Dagger of Amon Ra
11. Quest for Glory III
12. Leather Goddesses of Phobos! 2: Gas Pump Girls Meet the Pulsating Inconvenience from Planet X
13. Hook
14. Putt-Putt Joins the Parade
15. Lure of the Temptress
16. The Legend of Kyrandia
17. L. A. Law Game
18. Frederik Pohl's Gateway
19. Nippon Safes, Inc.
20. Mixed Up Fairy Tales
21. KGB
22. Police Quest: In Pursuit of the Death Angel (remake)
23. Fascination
24. The Island of Dr. Brain
25. Gobliiins
26. Ringworld: Revenge of the Patriarch
27. Rex Nebular and the Cosmic Gender Bender
28. The Koshan Conspiracy
29. WaxWorks
30. Rome: Pathway to Power
31. Spellcasting 301: Spring Break
32. Curse of Enchantia
33. Amazon: Guardians of the Eden
34. Bargon Attack
Bottom 5
35. Batman Returns
36. Inspector Gadget
37. Hugo III: Jungle of Doom
38. Eternam
39. Inca
Are you sure you didn't get the two Sherlock Holmes games mixed up?
DeleteI am going for the dark horse candidates, which are among my favorites:
ReplyDeleteTop 5:
Spellcasting
Dune
Amazon
Gateway
Dagger of Amon Ra
Bottom 5:
Hugo 3
Fascination
Dark Seed unless Gige's artwork make you bump it up a lot, in which case Inca
Ringworld
My favorites would include KGB and Alone in the Dark and my most hated would include King's Quest 6--fuck King's Quest, even though I love Sierra--and Kyrandia, but I doubt you will put them there.
Blue Force was a huge disappointment: Made by former Sierra employees, yet it lacked the humor, creativity and good writing of Sierra games, and the plot went nowhere. Also, my last pick for the bottom 5 is Ringworld: I heard horrible things about that game.
ReplyDeleteOK. Waiting until the last minute but still not putting a lot of thought into it, let's see how my 5 minutes of re-ordering fares in the Full House...
ReplyDelete1 Indiana Jones and the Fate of Atlantis
2 King's Quest VI: Heir Today, Gone Tomorrow
3 Star Trek: 25th Anniversary
4 Quest for Glory I: So You Want To Be A Hero (remake)
5 Frederik Pohl's Gateway
6 Sherlock Holmes Consulting Detective: Volume II
7 Dark Seed
8 Dune
9 Eternam
10 Quest for Glory III: Wages of War
11 The Dagger of Amon Ra
12 Gobliiins
13 Bargon Attack
14 WaxWorks
15 Inca
16 Amazon: Guardians of Eden
17 Spellcasting 301: Spring Break
18 The Island of Dr. Brain
19 KGB
20 Curse of Enchantia
21 The Koshan Conspiracy
22 L. A. Law Game
23 Leather Goddesses of Phobos! 2: Gas Pump Girls Meet the Pulsating Inconvenience from Planet X
24 The Legend of Kyrandia
25 The Lost Files of Sherlock Holmes: The Case of the Serrated Scalpel
26 Inspector Gadget: Mission 1 - Global Terror!
27 Mixed Up Fairy Tales
28 Nippon Safes, Inc.
29 Police Quest: In Pursuit of the Death Angel (remake)
30 Putt-Putt Joins the Parade
31 Lure of the Temptress
32 Alone in the Dark
33 Rex Nebular and the Cosmic Gender Bender
34 Ringworld: Revenge of the Patriarch
35 Fascination
36 Hook
37 Batman Returns
38 Hugo III: Jungle of Doom
39 Rome: Pathway to Power
I noticed I've chosen games I'll be reviewing myself at number 1 and 2. I should have chosen Waxworks, Leather Goddesses and Amazon at 3, 4 and 5 so I could cheat and guarantee myself the top 5. Mwahahahahah!