At the end of my last post, I’d just put the officer’s uniform on that I’d unlocked in the closet. I figured that I’d now have a much clearer path through the castle. Perhaps the guards would just acknowledge me as one of their own and ignore me altogether?! It didn’t take long for that assumption to be proved incorrect. Coming into contact with Guard 2 just outside the closet still resulted in conflict, so I was still required to use stealth to avoid him. Then Guard 3, who I’d already convinced that I was a servant, called me an intruder and starting swinging hay-makers, because last time he’d seen me I was dressed as a servant. I figured out pretty quickly that I needed to stay dressed as a servant while on the ground floor, only putting the officer uniform on once I took the stairs to the second floor.
Let’s continue my exploration of level two, starting with the security room in the top left corner. I spent a lot of time in this room, trying endless ways to satisfy the guard that I wasn’t an imposter, but nothing worked. I’m pretty sure I offered him every item I had in my possession and took every conversation path possible, but it always ended with a fight. The drunk guard had warned me to “watch out for that text-book Nazi who minds the alarm”, which made me think that this guy wasn’t going to be tricked by any of my pranks. Eventually I decided to fight him; just to see what would happen if I beat him. It took a few attempts as he was pretty decent, but I took him down, allowing me to explore the room unopposed. I found 70 marks on him too, which suggests maybe fighting this particular guard is the right thing to do?
The only item in the room that could be interacted with was the security system itself. There were a bunch of lights on the front that I could do nothing with, but the grating on the side was a different story. It was welded into place, so I couldn’t remove it, so I started thinking about other ways I might be able to deactivate it. Liquid always seems a good option for destroying electrical equipment, so I tried using the beer stein on it. It worked, and the security system was deactivated. However, I was still determined to get through the whole castle without fighting a guard. Since I didn’t yet have any idea why I might need to deactivate the security system, I restored my game and ignored the security room for the time being. I could always come back later and fight him again if I absolutely had to.
If you look at the map for the second floor (in my last post), you will see that I needed to get past either Guard 7 or Guard 5 to be able to reach the stairs leading up to the top floor. It had seemed to me so far that the walking guards could generally be evaded or coaxed into letting me pass, but the stationary ones in rooms could not. For that reason, I chose to focus on Guard 5. As usual, he didn’t recognise me and demanded to see my papers. After a few failed attempts, I eventually got past him by taking the superior approach. “Soldier! Is that any way to speak to a superior officer!” put him on the back foot, but he still wanted to see my papers. “Colonel Vogel knows of me. Please call him right away” did the trick though, as he seemed unwilling to disturb the colonel. Excellent, I could now access the rest of the floor and get to the one above too!
The room just to the south of where Guard 5 was situated, there was a room with a first aid kit in it. I added it to my inventory, despite hoping I would never need it. North of Guard 5 was a room with a window. While I haven’t mentioned anything about it, there are lots of rooms with windows in the castle, but this one was special. I’d tried opening every window I’d come across, simply because I was able to interact with them, but this one...opened! I hopped through it, out onto a ledge that was apparently pretty slippery. So slippery in fact, that Indy changed into his “action clothes” to better deal with it. Oddly, my version of the game’s graphics really screwed up at this point! A whole section of the outside area was a wash of colours that made it really difficult to figure out what I was supposed to be doing. Thankfully the “What is” action allowed me to move the cursor all over the glitch and the game still described to me what was there.
Ignoring the glitch, the first thing I noticed was that I was able to open the other two windows on the level I was standing on. The first one led straight into the room where Guard 7 was posted, so that was a no go. The second one led to an empty room that I’d previously not been able to get into. The door had been locked when approached from the other side, yet I was now able to open it from within. Strangely, there didn’t appear to be anything else in the room of interest. Confused, I jumped back out the window to see if there was anything else I could do out there. I noticed I could interact with a brick above my head and the trellis (lattice) on the right hand side of the screen. I began to wonder if I might be able to get onto the trellis and climb up to the next level. Was this just another way to get there, instead of getting past Guard 5 onto the stairs? Or was something else going on here?!
I wasn’t able to reach the brick or the trellis unfortunately, nor was I able to use any of my items to help me get there. Interestingly, when I tried using my whip on the brick, I was told that “there’s not enough there for me to whip”. What did it all mean? I hopped back inside the room nearby, and it was only then that I noticed I could interact with the brick from the inside! I pushed the brick, therefore giving myself more brick to whip from the ledge. Hopping back out, I then swung myself over to the trellis using the whip, feeling on top of the world! I climbed up the trellis and now had access to the three windows on the top floor. Considering I’d covered every room on level two, I was happy to enter level three this way and start exploring.
I entered the first window and found myself in a room with a fireplace and a cabinet in the corner. The only thing I was able to do there was open the cabinet, within which I found 75 marks. I have no idea what the marks are for at this stage, but was happy to take them. I wasn’t able to open the door in the room as it was locked, so I went back through the window. On entering the second window, I was shocked to find my father standing right in front of me! Had I somehow avoided the top level altogether by discovering this alternate route to rescuing dad!? It turned out I hadn’t, as the old man refused to go out by the window. I didn’t seem to be able to converse with him and he didn’t want any of the items I had, so all I could do was explore the rest of the room. There was nothing there, and unsurprisingly I wasn’t able to open the door once again.
I left by the window and told dad that I’d come back for him. I never came back this way, nor did I really gain anything other than knowledge of his whereabouts from my courageous climbing act. I’ll be very interested to hear whether there was some other reason or benefit to the whole thing. The last window took me to a completely empty room, so I climbed back down to level two and re-entered the window I’d opened in the first place. Once inside, I took the stairs up to level three (pausing to change into my officer uniform on the way) and ran straight into Guard 9 (see map for level three below). Thankfully this one was easily persuaded to let me pass. As soon as I could tell how nervous he was talking to a superior officer, I criticised the wrinkles in his pants and the sauce stain on his jacket, then demanded he stand aside. It worked, allowing me to continue my quest.
My next encounter was one that many of you have mentioned in comments. A large brute of a man stood between me and the rest of the floor, but he didn’t look like the type of guy I wanted to get into a fight with. I was able to talk to him, but no matter what I said, it always ended with a fight I had little chance of winning. I began looking at my inventory, wondering whether there was something I might be able to offer him. I tried giving him all the cash I’d collected, but he refused to take a bribe. I then gave him the stein of beer, and watched as he firstly sculled the whole thing in moments, and then secondly crushed the stein on his head! Once he was done, he said “I barely tasted that thimbleful, and you’re still not allowed up here”, before sending me away. Hmmm...did I have something larger I could fill with beer? Yes I did! The trophy!!!
After restoring (I might still need the beer stein), I quickly took the trophy back down to the kitchen on the ground floor, remembering to change into my servant’s uniform on the way. It took a while, but I was able to fill the trophy with beer! Before heading back upstairs, I thought I’d take the opportunity to revisit the room with all the paintings now I had the vault combination. My instincts were telling me that the vault must be in there somewhere. I tried picking up, pulling and pushing a few of the paintings and statues until I finally had some success! Pushing the Mona Lisa out of the way revealed a vault door, which I was able to open with the combination I’d retrieved from the file drawer in the Colonel’s office. Everything was falling into place now and I was very excited to find out what was inside the vault that the Colonel felt was so important.
Inside was the painting of the Grail that the Colonel had asked one of his guards to protect with his life right back in the opening castle cut scene. Sitting alongside it was the small painting I’d given to that guard to get him out of the way. Strangely, I wasn’t able to pick up either of the paintings, nor was able to do anything else with them. I tried everything imaginable, but if there was any purpose to breaking into the vault, it evaded me. I decided to move on, hoping that the solution would come to me down the track. Perhaps I needed my father with me when I entered the vault? Perhaps I would find an item later that would do something? For now, it was time to head back upstairs to that thug of a man, to see if he was as tough as he thought it was. Stay tuned to find out what happened!
Do you have ANY idea how against the flow your steadfast refusal to punch a Nazi is? Entire games are built on that notion! You are going to cause a collapse of the space time continuum if you persist!
ReplyDeleteWould it make you feel any better if I told you I punched dozens of them? I'm sure I made up for Trickster's pacifism!
DeleteI'd say the space time continuum is much more in peril due to me fighting and defeating just about every one of them, only to use a time machine to go back and avoid combat.
DeletePerhaps F5 stands for Flux Capacitor!
Perhaps so! :)
DeleteSpoilers for the security room: Lbh unira'g tbg gur evtug vgrz gb trg cnfg guvf thl, fb V'z nsenvq lbh'yy unir gb svtug uvz (be abg, V qvqa'g obgure, ohg gung tvirf lbh bgure ceboyrzf). Gur vgrz arrqrq jnf n obbx sebz gur yvoenel, Zrva Xnzcs.
ReplyDeleteI'm glad you're having a good time with this section, there are a lot of puzzles and a few different ways to get around, which is quite nice.
Hint for the painting: Erzrzore gubfr vafpevcgvbaf lbh sbhaq rneyvre?
I don't think there's any requirement to go upstairs using the trellis, apart from giving an alternate solution to something you've already discovered. Gur ebbz vf nynezrq. V'q fnl lbh pna rvgure tb va guebhtu gur jvaqbj be bcra gur sebag qbbe vs lbh'ir qvfnoyrq gur nynez.
ReplyDeleteI never found the brick inside the room so never got to the trellis, despite being certain I was supposed to somehow.
I also never got into the painting vault so that's not necessary either.
It reminds me a bit of Police Quest 2 with the amount of optional puzzles/information that could make later parts a bit easier or open up a future alternate solution.
I just wish most of the alternate solutions didn't require fist fights :)
One reason for swinging Indy with the whip: it's in the movie.
ReplyDeleteA little off-topic, but one problem I had with the movie this game was based on--and which is actually reflected in this game--is that the portrayal of the Nazis was a little too cartoony. I know that the Indiana Jones movies are supposed to be family-friendly entertainment, and that the Nazis are neither admirable nor worthy of respect, but these people were evil. I just didn't like the almost goofy way they were portrayed. I understand that the idea was to hold them up to (much-deserved) ridicule, but it still rubbed me the wrong way.
ReplyDeleteOkay, rant over. Thank you for indulging. Back to adventure gaming. This game seems like a lot of fun, despite the trial-and-error nature of some puzzles.
Hmm... while I see what you mean and agree that the in-game nazis are rather cartoonish, I think they came across as pretty evil in the movie. At least I can't remember any blatant slapstick or instances of fisticuffs with drunken goofballs. The book burning scene, however, always struck me as a little too much.
DeleteAlso, I'm not sure that I would qualify the first two films as family-friendly... Last Crusade is indeed much tamer, except a few final scenes at the temple.
I'd defend the cartoonish feel of the nazis in the game. It's pretty hard to make believable evil characters, especially if you are going to have dialogue with them and not just shoot them without questions. If you'd give them believable motivations, they'd might become characters you might have sympathy with, and if you'd make them realistically portrayed sadistic psychopaths - well, I don't think that would be light entertainment anymore (at least it would be difficult to be entertained when watching/playing it).
DeleteThe easiest option is to make them cartoonish - either ridiculous slapstick goons or then BIG BADDIES with manic laugh and ferocious gaze. If laughing at nazis is not your thing, fine, but this strategy has a lot of history in movies and TV, even before Last Crusade (Allo, allo! is a good example).
Besides, most of the nazis you meet in the castle are lower level baddies, so they probably won't have that much on their consciousness - they are more like pathetical henchmen than evil leaders.
@Charles: I'll have to re-watch the movie. For some reason, I felt that they were way more effective as evil baddies in Raiders than in Last Crusade. And agreed on Temple of Doom not being, ah, little-kid appropriate.
Delete@Ilmari: I suppose they work better cartoony for adventure game purposes. You raise good points regarding effective scriptwriting. I don't mean to harp on this, it's a whole other discussion and I don't want to hijack this thread any more than I already have.
By sheer coincidence, my wife decided to watch this movie last night. I was sitting in the adjourning room playing a board game. It seems that the game makes the maze-hunting and puzzle-solving twice as long and skips all the fun action sequences in between. Not that I'd want a bunch of mini-games in this point-and-click adventure (the one that exists is horrid enough), but it's a shame to skip those sequences entirely.
DeleteAnyway, the Nazis always seem to be a backdrop for the actual villain of the movies. Last Crusade is really all about Vogel/Donovan while Raiders is really Belloq with a bit of Toht/Dietrich. Their "stooges" just happen to be Nazis and what else would they be during World War II? Hell, the main villains are Donovan and Belloq who happen to be using the Nazis for their own designs. Spielburg's realistic take on the Nazis can be found in Schindler's List and that tone/mood doesn't belong in Indiana Jones at all! :)
And I'm back again? Going to read through some posts and comments, but first there's this:
ReplyDeletehttp://www.kickstarter.com/projects/redthread/dreamfall-chapters-the-longest-journey
Never mind, obviously I can't even figure out what post is the most recent anymore, already posted. :p
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