...the volleyball match. I’ll say straight up that it’s unlikely I would ever have found this section of the game if it wasn’t for Jarikith’s comment about it (in ROT13 I’ll add). You start the game sitting in a beach chair, with a shirt hanging over the back of it. You can’t enter the hotel behind you without putting that shirt on, and I struggle to see why anyone would stand up, leave the shirt where it is, and decide to ignore the hotel and wander up the beach. If you come across the volleyball net with your shirt off, there are two girls and a guy playing. If you’ve got the shirt on, they’re simply not there. Maybe it’s just the way I play adventure games, but I would put that shirt on and enter the hotel 99 times out of 100!
I’ve been whinging about how stingy the game is when it comes to handing out points, but the volleyball game dished out no less than 16! A few I gained from playing the game (which I had no control over), but the majority were earned by resuscitating one of the girls who drowned trying to retrieve the ball from the water. This involved nothing more than following the exact CPR steps outlined in the manual, and while I originally thought the girl must be Stacy (and perhaps that rescuing her might be the trigger to her having sex later), it turned out to have absolutely no bearing on the rest of the game whatsoever. She drowned, I resuscitated her, she thanked me and walked away.
My main reason for restarting was to try to get the girl in the bar to have sex with me. While I had a brief crack at it during my first play through, and had even managed to dance with her, everything I’d tried had failed and eventually resulted in her slapping me and walking out. I’d assumed at the time that the creators were making the game seem like a Leisure Suit Larry game, and then letting you know in no uncertain terms that Codename: ICEMAN wasn’t going to contain the same juvenile titillations. I’d also had absolutely no motives to flirt and bed women in this game, so once I was called upon to leave the island and help defend my country, I quickly forgot about the brunette and moved on. It came as quite a surprise to me to find out that I was supposed to have slept with her, and that not doing so had made me miss out on valuable information and items, not to mention points.
Once the dance was over, I stood right next to her again and typed “sit” a third time. This caused me to finally sit down in the chair across from her, at which point she rather bluntly came out with “would like to come back to my place”. You can compare Codename: ICEMAN to James Bond if you so choose, but the infamous British spy still has to seduce women with witty dialogue and sexy suggestiveness before they start taking their clothes off. All Johnny Westland has to do is buy a girl a drink and dance with her, not uttering a single word in the process. It seems Stacy is pretty damn easy to please!
Despite how slutty Stacy seemed, I wasn’t going to deny the girl, so answered in the affirmative. We then appeared outside her hut, where the obvious thing to do was to “kiss” her. After a couple of kisses, she asked me inside, which I once again agreed to. I then sat next to her on the bed, and nothing happened. Kissing her again caused her to tell me that “this vacation has been beautiful for me except for one thing! I lost an earring today that is very important to me!” Then nothing happened again. I don’t know if there’s any other way to get the action on, but I was forced to type “kiss” about five times before finally the screen went black and fireworks appeared. “The excitement and romance of the evening will be forever emblazoned on your memory!”
So...I’d scored with Stacy! For what purpose? Obviously the earring was going to play a role somehow. When I woke up, Stacy was gone, but there was a note saying “Thanks for making my vacation so wonderful. You were sleeping so peacefully I just couldn’t bring myself to wake you. I have urgent business to tend to and must leave. I wish you the best and hope we meet again soon.” I searched the hut thoroughly, but couldn’t uncover anything of interest. Stacy had mentioned she’d had the earring when she left the hut, and had noticed it was gone when she arrived at the hotel, so it must be somewhere in between. I left the hut to go hunting.
It took me about twenty seconds to find the earring, but I feel like there was some luck involved. Typing “look” and “look around” didn’t result in anything useful, but while I was walking along I thought I saw something shimmer briefly. It was so brief that I actually thought I’d imagined it, but I walked over to the spot and typed “look”. “In the sand a slight glimmer catches your eye”, which of course was the earring. Did anyone have any trouble finding the earring, despite knowing its general whereabouts? Looking at the earring revealed that “the top of the earring can be opened”, so that’s exactly what I did. Inside was a tiny roll of microfilm! It must be seriously small to fit inside an earring! What was I going to do with it? I’d always expected whatever I found on the island to assist me in cracking the CIA codes, but I couldn’t for the life of me figure out how the microfilm was going to help!
I left Tahiti with 51 points, which is 36 points more than I left with the first time around. From there I travelled to the Pentagon for my orders (where this time I got my ID card back from the guard), and then boarded the USS Blackhawk just as before. Once through the first submarine navigation section, Captain Hawkins and I moved into his quarters to retrieve the briefcase containing further orders. This time I was determined to figure out how to access the second compartment, which in turn I assumed would help me crack the CIA codes. I tried using every item I had on the briefcase until the captain said “John, you can fool around with that extra compartment some other time. We need to get this sub moving!”
That can only mean one thing really. I need to crack into the safe somehow to retrieve it later, but that doesn’t seem like a very honest thing for a second in command Navy officer to do. I tried asking the captain about the safe and even asked him directly for the code, but all I got in response was “you’ve left me responseless” and “you can’t do that”. Strangely, when I typed “look at captain”, the response was “he doesn’t look well”. At one point while I was asking him about the safe, I actually got “I’m sorry Commander, but the Captain is under medication and sleeping. The amount of pain he was experiencing from the head injury made it necessary to sedate him”. WTF? What head injury? This part of the game is clearly bugged and I had a bad feeling my reasons for not solving it were more to do with parser issues than anything else! I had to accept that the CIA code / briefcase compartment puzzle was going to remain unsolved for me, so I moved on.
I decoded the Washington codes, then made my way downstairs, determined to beat the crusty old man at dice and win the rum bottle, his money, and the device, all without restoring three times. Surprisingly, I didn’t have to restore even once this time around! I took Charles’ advice and sped the game up (don’t ask me why I didn’t think of that before), meaning I didn’t have to spend so long watching the tedious animations. I definitely had more luck this time around, but I also think I genuinely got better at the game. The key is to always go for triples. So if I had two 5’s and two 6’s after my first roll, I would keep the 6’s and roll the other three dice again (did I get it right this time The Mad Gamer?). If things didn’t go my way as "boss", I would pull out rather than gamble. Eventually I won everything on offer, and left the table.
This finally brings me back to the stage of the game I was at prior to restarting. I’ve actually ventured quite a bit further, and even written a post for it, but needed to get all of the above in the clear before continuing. I’m pretty disappointed that I still haven’t managed to crack the CIA codes through logic (only through spoiler), and have no idea how to open the safe and retrieve the briefcase to then get into the second compartment. I haven’t yet read any further hints or spoilers, as I want to make sure I don’t read anything unrelated that might assist me going forward. I have to say that playing through the starting sections of the game again has only reaffirmed my feelings toward it. Codename: ICEMAN is certainly an ambitious game, but it’s also a very poorly designed one, with numerous parser and puzzle flaws, not to mention tediously repetitious sections. The second half will have to be pretty damn gripping to make up for it.
Alright, I think it's time for a little game!
ReplyDeleteI'll start by offering 20 CAPs to anyone that can translate all of the below adventure game titles. The CAPs offer may change dependent on how challenging these turn out to be. I really don't know if they're too easy or too hard!
1. Underneath a Metal Atmosphere
2. I Contain No Oral Cavity and I Have an Obligation to Yell
3. The Most Time Consuming Expedition
4. Dim Kernel
5. The Rather Dark Reflective Surface
6. Motionless Organic Existence
7. Sharp Object Sprinter
8. Coming Into View
9. Complete Suffocation
10. Upcoming Hostilities
I think I've got the three first:
Delete1) Orarngu n fgrry fxl
2) V unir ab zbhgu naq V zhfg fpernz
3) Gur ybatrfg wbhearl
Indeed you have. I did start with some easy ones though. ;)
DeleteI do find much amusement in number 2. Immature I know!
Actually, now that I look at it. The list could easily make up the track titles of one of my metal albums. Complete Suffocation? Upcoming Hostilities? Motionless Organic Existence? Metal!!! ;)
Taking a chance on the next three then:
Delete4) Qnex Frrq
5) Gur Oynpx Zveebe
6) Fgvyy Yvsr
Yes...yes...and...yes!
Delete7) Oynqr Ehaare
DeleteWell it seems I should have read more comments before posting!
DeleteOkay. I'm sure others have gotten all the answers so no CAPS for me, but I like quiz games so I'm going to guess anyway.
DeleteOrarngu n Fgrry Fxl
V unir ab zbhgu naq V zhfg fpernz
Gur Ybatrfg Wbhearl
???
Gur Oynpx Zveebe
Fgvyy Yvsr
Oynqr Ehaare
???
Gbgny Oernguyrffarff???
Shgher Jne
7 out of 10 is pretty damn good TBD!
DeleteNever heard of a game called Total Breathlessness though. ;)
Hmmm, too slow for the first three :( but here's my remainder
ReplyDelete7) Oynqr Ehaare
9) Shyy Guebggyr
Yes and yes! Well done on number 9! I thought that might be a toughy.
DeleteMmmh can't figure out 8) and 10). After fighting the C:I parser in the last few days my brain cells are still recharging.
ReplyDeleteGood for you, getting through the dice game in one try! I got a good chuckle out of the phantom paramedic voice. I think it's the room that's bugged/haunted. I went back later in the game and I still got the "not enough memory" error message when I tried to access the inventory.
There may be more points to be earned at the island. Like you, I missed the volleyball game entirely. It's not that I went into the hotel immediately - it's just that I went exploring with my shirt on! Watch out for those UV, people!
But then there's more to be done with the blonde at the bar. I actually managed to get her drunk in my game, and she had to be helped out. A completely unnecessary segment as most of the actions at the island seem to be, though it did reinforce the Larryesque atmosphere.
I think number 8 is the hardest to figure out, but it's a well known game. Number 10 is not a widely known game, but it's on the list.
ReplyDeleteIs number 8 Ybbz? I'm not sure of the precise meaning of the word, and it does feel more like a partial match.
DeleteYes it is! It's a rather specific definition of the word I know.
DeleteWell done unimural.
Wow, I'd never get even close. I'll give unimural half (rounded up) of my winnings on this contest just for finding the solution to that one. :)
Delete10 is probably Shgher Jnef, still working on 8.
ReplyDeleteCorrect!
DeleteI only know one of these as a movie, not an adventure game. I'm looking forward to that one now!
ReplyDeleteI take it you mean number 7? I don't think you'll be disappointed Canageek. It's very faithful to the movie.
DeleteSo that's all ten solved?
ReplyDeleteIlmari got 3.
Lars-Erik got 4.
nhil got 2.
unimural got 1.
I'll figure out CAP distribution later on.
You could always multiply how many they each got by 2 as their reward, since there are 10 solutions that'll always lead you to the original 20 CAPs.
DeleteNo, I think that the people who got the harder ones deserve more per answer. Harder ones meaning here, whichever took the longest to solve.
DeleteYes, I definitely won't deserve 6 points for this :) Three, at most.
DeleteNot sure I warranted a shout-out in the post, as I don't recall making any comment about the dice game. You're probably thinking of "The Mad Gamer" who grammar nazi'ed you on the proper pluralization of die/dice.
ReplyDeleteSorry Mooki, you're quite right! I meant to check whether it was you that grammar nazi'd me, but forgot. I'll correct it now.
DeleteShame that you went through all that trouble of restarting and were still let down by the parser! If you still want to see what you missed in the safe, here's an advice that Jarikith gave to Charles in an earlier comment thread:
ReplyDelete"The game seems to require knowing, for no precisely logical reason, that you'll know you should do specific things during certain times that aren't otherwise explicitly laid out for you. With regards to the briefcase being locked away forever Charles the game expects that: Jura gur Pncgnva svefg ergevrirf gur gur oevrspnfr sebz gur fnsr naq lbh obgu bcra vg gung lbh gura nfx uvz sbe gur pbzovangvba gb obgu, fvapr nf gur rkrphgvir bssvpre lbh'ir tbg gur evtug gb unir gung vasbezngvba juvpu vf arire fgngrq naljurer va gur znahny, lbh'er whfg rkcrpgrq gb fbzrubj xabj gung 'jryy bs pbhefr gur Pncgnva jvyy whfg tvir zr gur pbzovangvba gb gur fnsr va uvf cevingr dhnegref vs bayl V nfx!'. Don't have a save that far back? Don't want to suffer through Boss Dice again just to crack that briefcase? Read on for the spoiler if you want: Gur pbzovangvba vf abg enaqbz sbe gur fnsr vg'f Gjb Guerr Sbhe Sbhe Rvtug Rvtug Mreb Guerr naq gur unys bs gur oevrspnfr pbqr lbh qba'g unir vf Frira Fvk Gjb sbyybjrq ol gur cneg lbh nyernql xabj bs Bar Guerr Sbhe."
I should probably add that so far I haven't had to refer to whatever the briefcase contains OR to the CIA messages. I haven't read Jarikith's hints yet (although I probably will if I can't get out of my current predicament) but I'd be surprised if breaking into the compartment is anything more than another optional activity.
DeleteBased on what I've seen, the game is very linear, moreso than it appears to be. The mandatory path is strictly limited; any detour is met with a Restore/Restart message. OTOH, those scenes or events you can actually miss seem to be optional. Or maybe this is just wishful thinking on my part.
Delete@Charles: Is your predicament still the znyshapgvbavat qvire or is it something new?
DeleteI keep getting the feeling we should find Trickster a copy of a US military manual on submarine protocols.
Delete@Ilmari: I've moved forward, but just an inch. Here's another limerick for you :-)
ReplyDeleteNsgre fgehttyvat sbe frrzvatyl qnlf
Lbh thlf urycrq zr gb svaq gur evtug cuenfr
Ohg vg jnf nyy sbe anhtug
Sbe gur qvire qbrf fdhng
Nf V fjvz guebhtu guvf jngrel znmr
If the problem is what I think it is, this might help you:
DeleteVs gur ceboyrz vf whfg anivtngvba,
Gur fbyhgvba vf gevnathyngvba,
Ynaqznexf ner bs nffvfgnapr,
Svaq bhg natyrf naq qvfgnapr,
Qvivat jba'g or gevohyngvba
My problem is actually getting qvfgnapr data. I can get natyr qngn gb jung ybbxf yvxr n pvgl naq na bvy cyngsbez va gur qvfgnapr (hfvat gur fpbcr) ohg ab lneqntr jungfbrire. Maybe I did miss something somewhere after all...
Delete@Charles my gentle nudge in the proper direction: Gurer ner gjb crbcyr nyjnlf ba gur oevqtr. Gur svefg bcrengrf gur enqvb, gur frpbaq bcrengrf...?
Delete@Jarikith I tried talking to that guy, but got nowhere... now I'm thinking I'll have to hit the precise wording again. Thanks!
Delete@Charles: One possibility is "Trg qvfgnapr gb K".
Delete@Ilmari: So I use your hint (thanks) and get one of the pieces of the puzzle. The other one eludes me. It seems I can't find out the qvfgnapr gb gur bvy cyngsbez V frr ba gur fpbcr, and I'm about to give up. Then...
DeleteV rknzvar gur qvire sbe gur hzcgrragu gvzr juvyr fjvzzvat nvzyrffyl naq gel YBBX GNETRG. Gb zl nfgbavfuzrag gur tnzr erfcbaqf jvgu "Bvy Evt: kkk urnqvat kkk lneqf". Fb gung'f jung gur cyngsbez vf pnyyrq! Onpx gb trg gur vasb sebz gur fbanezna. Vg'f gbb onq V tbg vg lrg ntnva sebz gnxvat nqinagntr bs n syhxr va gur tnzr, ohg V ungr gung V xabj rknpgyl jung gb qb (perngr n qvirefvba va gur bvy evt gb ragre gur uneobe havzcrqrq) ohg gur cnefre trgf va zl jnl ntnva naq ntnva. V fcrag gbb zhpu gvzr jvgu guvf. Abj gb svther bhg ubj gb npghnyyl trg gurer...
Glad to be of assistance. I have to say I didn't remember the game had so many bugs - I did stumble to some, but you and Trick appear to find them around every other corner. Hopefully the ending goes without any further problems, at least it is packed with action.
DeleteI realize this was years ago, and I could leave this comment on almost any post, but I wonder if there are other people besides me reading through these posts exclusively on their phones? If I was on my computer I'd probably be deciphering all this ROT13, but I read this blog for a few minutes on my phone from my bed each night before going to sleep, and trying to decipher everything on my phone is more trouble than it's worth. I'm really curious about what everyone is saying, but...well, I guess not curious enough.^_^;
DeleteI don't know whether you can use a Javascript bookmarklet on your phone's browser, but this works in Safari on my iPad: link to Google doc I have a bookmark in the favorites bar whose "URL" is that snippet of code. On a desktop browser it actually functions two ways: if you highlight some text on a page and then click the bookmarklet, it will translate it through ROT13; or if you click it without having selected any text, it will pop up a box prompting you to enter some text for it to convert. That second function doesn't work in iOS Safari (YMMV on another browser), but if I want to encode something I can just type it out in whatever comment box, highlight it, and run the bookmarklet in situ.
DeleteSince everyone here is a gamer I thought I'd tell you about a charity by gamers I just donated too.
ReplyDeleteDesert Bus for Hope starts in 10 days, and I just donated money on behalf of my brother, who has cancer. I wrote about why here: http://wp.me/pAv3J-dX and would encourage everyone to read it and have a look at the charity.
Thank you.
Sorry to hear about your brother, Canageek.
ReplyDeleteI have a very close friend who went through something similar last year, had a 3-inch tumor removed from his skull. Terrifying times. He pushed through though, decided to fix his life; changed his habits, gained a different outlook -- he's now a changed person even when he's not yet out of hot water. Often I find myself thinking that even if I have more time ahead than him (and who can say for certain?) he's probably enjoying the day more than I am.
Here's hoping for a successful treatment and a speedy recovery for your brother. Waiting while he gets there sucks, but what you're doing now -keeping close- is probably all you can do and I'm sure it helps a lot.
Thank you very much Charles.
DeleteI remember seeing ICEMAN for sale in a store in the mall when I was a young lad. My family really enjoyed the King's Quest series, and I saw this and thought "wow, it's King's Quest for JAMES BOND!" I have a memory of the back cover of the game including a screenshot with a command like "take microfilm from earring" entered into the parser, I imagine that would have been a bit of a starting hint on the game.
ReplyDeleteI think I ended up getting NES Shadowgate that day, which I probably enjoyed more than I would have ICEMAN. The submarine stuff sounds horrible!