tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3387495443226852794.post8268235869952089536..comments2024-03-29T05:52:53.051+11:00Comments on The Adventurers Guild: Game 45: Quest for Glory II - Won! (Part Two)The Tricksterhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/01419316208187255801noreply@blogger.comBlogger34125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3387495443226852794.post-44754148390362899682023-05-09T23:06:55.934+10:002023-05-09T23:06:55.934+10:00It seems the fighter path is the less interesting ...It seems the fighter path is the less interesting one. It has practically no new locations (just some brotherhood exam chamber and the Raseir Palace interior) in comparison to thief and magician paths. Moreover, these locations are there for mandatory fights only. Since they are encountered at the end of the game a character with high combat skills can defeat the enemies with no much effort. I did not play as a fighter but after reading Trickster's posts I think there were too many dissatisfying moments. As a thief I had satisfying opportunities to put the role-specific skills to the test.qwertyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16747798871196421602noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3387495443226852794.post-30765285630614104762014-08-24T07:47:21.884+10:002014-08-24T07:47:21.884+10:00I've got to say, the funnyness doesn't rui...I've got to say, the funnyness doesn't ruin this game for me nearly as much as most games. For one thing, none of it is 4th wall breaking, and none of it is really self-referential, like as in, say, Space Quest. Canageekhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03770924810559440307noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3387495443226852794.post-33528592722764403772014-08-23T22:58:40.217+10:002014-08-23T22:58:40.217+10:00I wanted to say hello to everyone, hopefully I'...I wanted to say hello to everyone, hopefully I'll post in upcoming games, but I'm all caught up on the games.<br /><br />I'll be sending Trickster a What's your story soon, that will hopefully let everyone know me a little better.Ishtarhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09037860723340457424noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3387495443226852794.post-5238499653722100702014-08-22T11:38:48.106+10:002014-08-22T11:38:48.106+10:00In the remake, they addressed the flaw that you...In the remake, they addressed the flaw that you're actually speaking about now (that the Thief could end up short on daggers). I think that as memory serves, if you end up short as a thief, you need to just tough it out through the fighter entry like the magic user (oh, let's not be coy - you're a Wizard by this point if you made it this far, or you're a dead magic user because you don't have Reversal) but without the toolbox of spells. I also think you end up having to fight Khaveen from memory, as there's nowhere to creep around - but you might actually be able to pick the lock on the doors on the way at least.<br /><br />The fighter endgame is, in a way, the easiest, though - all you need to do is 'escape' then physically run into the candles, then Mr. Avis.Aperamahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13669724908141286435noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3387495443226852794.post-80071971293746624902014-08-22T05:24:49.580+10:002014-08-22T05:24:49.580+10:00A magic user can get a bit of an easier time in th...A magic user can get a bit of an easier time in the lava/fire section of the Forbidden City by casting Calm (which I suppose was taught earlier in the WIT initiation, but I never actually tried it until recently).Andy_Panthrohttps://www.blogger.com/profile/18231815646876343380noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3387495443226852794.post-69305804369750940712014-08-22T05:05:30.623+10:002014-08-22T05:05:30.623+10:00I may have said it before, but I'm not a fan o...I may have said it before, but I'm not a fan of the pacing of this game. First, in Shapeir, instead of advancing the plot by exploration and discovery, you have to wait for key events to occur. Then it switches to higly restrictive linearity in Raseir. I felt that the story and exploration were much better integrated in the first and fourth games. Then there's the game balance problems Chet mentioned in his review.<br /><br />One of the things I liked about the first game's story better was its more unique, low-key main conflict. Beginning with the second game, the series pretty much stuck with the cliché "save the world" goal.<br /><br />Those things said, it's still a very good game, much better than the third one. The sidequests are some of the best in the series, especially the W.I.T. test and Julanar. And the ending in which you're showered with praise is kind of awesome. :-PLaukkuhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16258625692586860655noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3387495443226852794.post-47603154520856847582014-08-21T23:24:06.421+10:002014-08-21T23:24:06.421+10:00On an unrelated note: Shadowgate remake should be ...On an unrelated note: Shadowgate remake should be availabe in few hours on Steam. So those interested in reliving suffering in HD, rejoice!Greglorioushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13202921520958730728noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3387495443226852794.post-12669982710893634592014-08-21T22:54:00.319+10:002014-08-21T22:54:00.319+10:00I imagine you didn't get to take a carpet to R...I imagine you didn't get to take a carpet to Raseir because all the carpets belong to the Kattas (or maybe Abdullah), and none of them would have wanted to venture over to such an oppressive place without a really good reason. Since there was a caravan going anyway, they figured if you really wanted to go, you'd just take that. Plus that gives you the opportunity to beat up that pile of bandits!Reikohttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07326356159794723662noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3387495443226852794.post-8989399448766782482014-08-21T17:39:22.469+10:002014-08-21T17:39:22.469+10:00We always assumed that any given player would miss...We always assumed that any given player would miss 80% of the jokes - either not encounter them or not have the cultural referent to see the humor. So we made sure there was enough overkill for everyone to have some fun. Of course, sometimes that backfired with people who thought the silliness ruined the serious storyline. But if you look at most dramatic films, they have humorous moments to temporarily release tension.Corey Colehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16772474266362396768noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3387495443226852794.post-25805064073634623702014-08-21T17:36:22.302+10:002014-08-21T17:36:22.302+10:00There are a few unforgivable actions that flag you...There are a few unforgivable actions that flag you as ineligible for Paladin no matter how much Honor you have. I don't offhand recall all of them. One is trying to kill the opponent in EOF. You are definitely supposed to return Omar's purse (which you first have to find). Letting Khaveen retrieve his dropped sword is honorable, but I don't recall whether it's a deal-breaker if you don't.Corey Colehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16772474266362396768noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3387495443226852794.post-85831327933609273862014-08-21T11:20:23.872+10:002014-08-21T11:20:23.872+10:00As I mentioned in a previous post - you can essent...As I mentioned in a previous post - you can essentially stuff up one time and one time alone. If you do any blatant nastiness (thievery or murder) you're immediately DQed - the only thing you positively can't do is jostle Merv the Griffin. Still, if you didn't return the purse and showed no mercy to Khaveen, you're sure to have missed out. Saving Walid at EoF, returning Soulforge voluntarily are fighter only.. If I recall it's a points system, where you get six of (25?) for having honour greater than 75 (qualifying you), then a whole bunch of three pointers like being polite to Aziza and donating to the beggar twice as a minimum. Obviously saving Julanar is also, (along with the beast?) But yeah, if you screw up twice it has to be the minor transgressions like being rude to Aziza or not returning the purse. Aperamahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13669724908141286435noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3387495443226852794.post-58602945336273844272014-08-21T10:57:07.880+10:002014-08-21T10:57:07.880+10:00Also, Eunuchs walk around naked because... they ha...Also, Eunuchs walk around naked because... they have nothing left to hide!Kenny McCormickhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01553499727945099493noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3387495443226852794.post-48825869391423026352014-08-21T09:22:01.756+10:002014-08-21T09:22:01.756+10:00Actually, the most likely reason must be that I ki...Actually, the most likely reason must be that I killed Khaveen so quickly that I didn't notice he'd dropped his sword at some point.The Tricksterhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01419316208187255801noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3387495443226852794.post-8270492305221905092014-08-21T09:21:07.125+10:002014-08-21T09:21:07.125+10:00I never saw Omar in one of the plazas, nor his pur...I never saw Omar in one of the plazas, nor his purse. I can only assume that's why I didn't become a Paladin. Either that or picking the prison lock instead of breaking it was the issue.The Tricksterhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01419316208187255801noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3387495443226852794.post-30447432326517015202014-08-21T09:19:34.298+10:002014-08-21T09:19:34.298+10:00No real purpose as far as I can tell. He just told...No real purpose as far as I can tell. He just told me my vague future and that was it.The Tricksterhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01419316208187255801noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3387495443226852794.post-19252886742546912122014-08-20T23:49:14.389+10:002014-08-20T23:49:14.389+10:00Was there *any* point to the Astrologer??? Can'...Was there *any* point to the Astrologer??? Can't remember if he served any purpose at all. Charleshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04860506019349657883noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3387495443226852794.post-45113753096390876102014-08-20T23:47:36.518+10:002014-08-20T23:47:36.518+10:00In particular the amount of puns that went into th...In particular the amount of puns that went into the game is staggering. Possibly the punniest game ever.<br /><br />There were also an incredible amount of little humorous descriptions hidden in inconsequential objects. Like all those books! It pains me that many people will simply overlook them...Charleshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04860506019349657883noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3387495443226852794.post-84325645259913021552014-08-20T23:43:38.545+10:002014-08-20T23:43:38.545+10:00That's right, at one point Omar makes an appea...That's right, at one point Omar makes an appearance at one of the plazas and recites some verses. If you then go away and reenter the plaza (maybe after some time has passed) you will find the purse lying on the floor. You can't miss it really. <br /><br />Stupidly, I didn't make the connection that it was Omar's, and so I didn't event try to return it, just to open it without success. Why would I anyway, I am a thief, dammit!Charleshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04860506019349657883noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3387495443226852794.post-76950103325565244372014-08-20T23:38:57.335+10:002014-08-20T23:38:57.335+10:00No *facepalms*No *facepalms*Charleshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04860506019349657883noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3387495443226852794.post-13336545579770197632014-08-20T23:36:56.248+10:002014-08-20T23:36:56.248+10:00Or fall down ungraciously! I know I did.Or fall down ungraciously! I know I did.Charleshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04860506019349657883noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3387495443226852794.post-17860816115025584472014-08-20T21:57:48.349+10:002014-08-20T21:57:48.349+10:00"I take it I could have just climbed down her..."I take it I could have just climbed down here if I didn't have the magic rope?"<br /><br />I think you could have jumped down.Ilmari Jauhiainenhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01655841880034965950noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3387495443226852794.post-88886868179235987282014-08-20T21:56:31.426+10:002014-08-20T21:56:31.426+10:00Charles: Did you remember to show thief sign to Fe...Charles: Did you remember to show thief sign to Ferrari?Ilmari Jauhiainenhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01655841880034965950noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3387495443226852794.post-71169194165859356292014-08-20T21:29:13.082+10:002014-08-20T21:29:13.082+10:00I believe the "proper" route for the mag...I believe the "proper" route for the magic user is through the main gate, same as the fighter, only by different means :)Torchhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15929817555431987717noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3387495443226852794.post-33460395592456668762014-08-20T21:25:46.773+10:002014-08-20T21:25:46.773+10:00I *think* it's possible in a computer-is-too-f...I *think* it's possible in a computer-is-too-fast-and-my-fighter-is-really-buff situation that you can kill Khaveen without him dropping the sword. Not sure if you miss out on honor/paladin points or if it's just the penalty for killing him unarmed.<br /><br />Sometimes the poet Omar will be in one of the plaza's. He should be outside the inn first, if I'm not mistaken. After he's gone, there should be a collection of pixels resembling a purse on the ground where he sat. It might be somewhat early in the game though.... Torchhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15929817555431987717noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3387495443226852794.post-67445465122302027282014-08-20T21:13:11.940+10:002014-08-20T21:13:11.940+10:00Where'd you get the purse from?Where'd you get the purse from?The Tricksterhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01419316208187255801noreply@blogger.com