tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3387495443226852794.post4539758228668235409..comments2024-03-29T05:52:53.051+11:00Comments on The Adventurers Guild: King's Quest VI - Isle of PunderThe Tricksterhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/01419316208187255801noreply@blogger.comBlogger27125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3387495443226852794.post-75743426583310352212018-07-20T04:55:38.597+10:002018-07-20T04:55:38.597+10:00I don't know if there is a specific "5 Se...I don't know if there is a specific "5 Senses Gnomes" fairy tale, but it feels like the type of thing that would appear in a Lewis Carroll story (which the Isle of Wonder is clearly referencing), especially since teaching a concept like the 5 senses using gnomes that, if you think about, make no sense at all, is a *very* Lewis Carroll thing to do. This, even more than the more obvious Wonderland references (like the chessboard), fits the spirit of Alice in Wonderland more than anything else on the rest of the island (which is mostly either puns, as TBD pointed out, or taking phrases literally, like "hole-in-the-wall or bookworm"), which is one reason I think it's so memorable.MisterKerrhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12525316028415093685noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3387495443226852794.post-34194102649408799462018-07-20T03:32:53.840+10:002018-07-20T03:32:53.840+10:00I am not sure how seriously to take the article. I...I am not sure how seriously to take the article. I guess the central question is what to mean by "sense". For instance, I can well believe that we have some sort of internal time keeping mechanism, but why on earth should we call it "chronosense", if it doesn't work at all like all the five "regular" senses?Ilmari Jauhiainenhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01655841880034965950noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3387495443226852794.post-72467439341803209982018-07-19T17:32:34.477+10:002018-07-19T17:32:34.477+10:00https://www.weforum.org/agenda/2017/01/humans-have...https://www.weforum.org/agenda/2017/01/humans-have-more-than-5-senses/Laukkuhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16258625692586860655noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3387495443226852794.post-5912379615009172902018-07-19T13:55:28.575+10:002018-07-19T13:55:28.575+10:00Not sure about fairy tales, but there is a puzzle ...Not sure about fairy tales, but there is a puzzle from another famous adventure game, not yet covered by TAG, that plays on the five senses as well. It'll be interesting to compare the two whenever we get to it.Tornadohttp://www.andrewledbetter.comnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3387495443226852794.post-81808720964242309412018-07-19T13:45:16.592+10:002018-07-19T13:45:16.592+10:00I don't know about fairy tales, but the differ...I don't know about fairy tales, but the different powers of the gnomes and the way they complemented each other strongly reminded me of the Baron Munchausen's companions.Charleshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04860506019349657883noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3387495443226852794.post-2079745336353167522018-07-19T13:39:30.399+10:002018-07-19T13:39:30.399+10:00Not quite the same, but similar enough to the stor...Not quite the same, but similar enough to the story of the blind men and the elephant: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Blind_men_and_an_elephantAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3387495443226852794.post-16874022176528441642018-07-19T02:40:39.513+10:002018-07-19T02:40:39.513+10:00Does anyone know whether the gnomes are from some ...Does anyone know whether the gnomes are from some fairy tale? The idea of using different things to confuse people with different senses seems familiar, but I can't really place it.Ilmari Jauhiainenhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01655841880034965950noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3387495443226852794.post-52982336943646170132018-07-18T16:51:50.538+10:002018-07-18T16:51:50.538+10:00It's a very good puzzle. It has a memorable, c...It's a very good puzzle. It has a memorable, creative theme, and it has clear phases (5 separate gnomes) so it's satisfying to see how you progress in it. I could see it as a candidate for Puzzle of the Year. The only flaw is that the sense gnome doesn't seem to accept the feather as an alternate solution, with no proper explanation.Laukkuhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16258625692586860655noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3387495443226852794.post-31695506554510943502018-07-18T01:14:57.664+10:002018-07-18T01:14:57.664+10:00I agree regarding the quality of the gnome puzzle....I agree regarding the quality of the gnome puzzle. It also strikes me that this first part of the game does a good job striking a balance between giving the player some freedom to explore, but also providing some constraint to give the player some guidance regarding what to do next. Both the game design and puzzle design are a step up from KQ5 (not that that's a high bar, IMO).Tornadohttp://www.andrewledbetter.comnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3387495443226852794.post-69007039659293101572018-07-17T07:05:23.336+10:002018-07-17T07:05:23.336+10:00By some stroke of dumb luck I had all the items ne...By some stroke of dumb luck I had all the items necessary to pass the five guards when I first met them. A really nice puzzle, I think. <br /><br />The flower garden and the chess world beyond have a distinct Alice Thru (ahem) the Looking Glass feel to them, no?<br /><br />I noticed the color mismatch with Saladin's portrait (how did that even get through QA?) and assumed it had to do with me playing an enhanced version. I think the original portraits have more charm, but then again I love the low-res look of early adventures.Charleshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04860506019349657883noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3387495443226852794.post-56054998841421038262018-07-17T01:17:22.548+10:002018-07-17T01:17:22.548+10:00I agree, I was just giving TBD a little bit of a h...I agree, I was just giving TBD a little bit of a hard time :)Michaelhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16240427925874212338noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3387495443226852794.post-1755100587836101512018-07-16T19:12:53.451+10:002018-07-16T19:12:53.451+10:00The Cliffs of Logic, the only thing standing betwe...The Cliffs of Logic, the only thing standing between me and finishing the game back in the day. If I ever find my family's copy of the manual I gotta see if it solvable even though it was in french (well obviously it is, but more if a kid without any knowledge in french actually could piece it together).<br /><br />Also, gotta love the voice acting from Tony Jay as Saladin. Niklashttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12994906056143612738noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3387495443226852794.post-82430505467512384512018-07-16T16:31:21.243+10:002018-07-16T16:31:21.243+10:00The correct formal spelling is "through"...The correct formal spelling is "through" even in America. "Thru" is, like you said, more for informal situations (drive-thru) or texting, so I think the point stands even in the States (for example, searching the web for "walkthrough" brings up a whole lot of dictionary-type pages, but searching for "walk-thru" gives me a hip hop song and a "read the Bible" site, so...)MisterKerrhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12525316028415093685noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3387495443226852794.post-85372917534809520012018-07-16T16:21:07.269+10:002018-07-16T16:21:07.269+10:00To be fair, the hi-res portraits do show quite a b...To be fair, the hi-res portraits do show quite a bit more detail, and they all seem to be in a sort of hyper-exaggerated style that arguably is more interesting than the more vanilla-looking original ones (though I don't think that style quite matches the rest of the game). Probably part of my preference is due to nostalgia: the old portraits are the ones I know best, and even the version I own currently (the ~2006 Vivendi King's Quest Collection) still uses the old portraits. It's all subjective anyway, I s'pose.<br /><br />When I hear "hole-in-the-wall" I think of, say, some mom-and-pop restaurant in the middle of a city or a strip mall that almost nobody knows about but serves really good food, like a "hole-in-the-wall Chinese place" or something. I think in the game they were just making a pun on the phrase, not relating it to the actual meaning. I do remember that the screenshot of the hole-in-the-wall showing the chessboard land was an image they showed off a lot in the marketing for the game back in the day for some reason. Maybe they watched Roger Rabbit recently and liked the idea of a portable hole crossed with a cartoony-looking creature?MisterKerrhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12525316028415093685noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3387495443226852794.post-74114963917793921062018-07-16T16:09:01.959+10:002018-07-16T16:09:01.959+10:00Thanks - yeah, I already find the puzzling much be...Thanks - yeah, I already find the puzzling much better than King's Quest V, which is a promising sign.TBDhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07010934567583163570noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3387495443226852794.post-20030067287592815122018-07-16T16:08:06.213+10:002018-07-16T16:08:06.213+10:00Yeah - I knew the map wouldn't count but when ...Yeah - I knew the map wouldn't count but when I saw it on the counter I couldn't resist trying to take it :)TBDhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07010934567583163570noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3387495443226852794.post-45405925372909240002018-07-16T16:07:11.946+10:002018-07-16T16:07:11.946+10:00I'll make a note to watch that when I've f...I'll make a note to watch that when I've finished playing. Thanks.TBDhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07010934567583163570noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3387495443226852794.post-89052923470313547552018-07-16T16:05:36.405+10:002018-07-16T16:05:36.405+10:00Best I've found so far - I like puzzles that g...Best I've found so far - I like puzzles that give me a clear quest.TBDhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07010934567583163570noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3387495443226852794.post-10406928756894688902018-07-16T16:04:09.994+10:002018-07-16T16:04:09.994+10:00:) I'm happy with donut so my grammar naziness...:) I'm happy with donut so my grammar naziness is not completely consistent. But I HAVE been known to deduct points for bad grammar - just ask Martian Memorandum :)<br /><br />Is thru actually the correct American spelling? I know words like colo(u)r and humo(u)r are different but thut thru was just a lazy/sms way of spelling.TBDhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07010934567583163570noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3387495443226852794.post-89737674116732699162018-07-16T15:58:14.830+10:002018-07-16T15:58:14.830+10:00I had a quick look at the alternate Saladin pictur...I had a quick look at the alternate Saladin picture and I find this one looks much better, though the other does match better. I haven't looked at the gnomes yet but will look at them all before doing a final rating.<br /><br />Thanks MisterKerr - glad you liked it.<br /><br />Hole in the wall is also a British term for an ATM.TBDhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07010934567583163570noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3387495443226852794.post-58314041986542955872018-07-16T05:27:21.240+10:002018-07-16T05:27:21.240+10:00Alright, the Tales from the Crypt joke actually go...Alright, the Tales from the Crypt joke actually got me. Well done. Other than the initial beach, the puzzles seem to be pretty logical so far, which is a nice change for King's Quest.Biscuithttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13743738891530125565noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3387495443226852794.post-8878428011385385002018-07-16T03:18:23.386+10:002018-07-16T03:18:23.386+10:00"His colours matched in the original portrait..."His colours matched in the original portrait."<br /><br />I was going to bring that up as another example of why I'm firmly on Team Original KQVI Portraits. Even the ones that aren't inaccurate or lobster-red are just ugly (the mouth gnome in particular looks like Salvador Dali crafted a gnome out of clay and left it in the sun for a week). I guess the bookworm looks OK.<br /><br />I didn't know that the pawn shoppe owner left the map on the counter if you ask about it without having the ring, or that the Cliffs of Logic flat-out tell you to look at the manual. It's been so long since the first time I played this game (26 years ago or so) that's it's fun seeing little bits like this that an experienced player breezes through, er, "thru".<br /><br />The "thut" joke (and your continued use of it and "thru") gave me a good laugh.MisterKerrhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12525316028415093685noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3387495443226852794.post-64520302545662310912018-07-16T02:46:34.441+10:002018-07-16T02:46:34.441+10:00But... you said the items on your counter
He said...<i>But... you said the items on your counter</i><br /><br />He said one of the four simple items, and the magic map, while on the counter, is far from simple. (I don't know that I would call a mechanical nightingale simple either, but there you have it.)Rowan Lipkovitshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08691096685515251681noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3387495443226852794.post-85751317218017512062018-07-16T01:02:14.379+10:002018-07-16T01:02:14.379+10:00I was watching a Pushing Up Roses video on King...I was watching a Pushing Up Roses video on King's Quest VI earlier today: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Bds_U9O0nks (spoilers, obviously). She mentions a few things I'd never thought of when playing, including the name of the Vizier as Abdul Alhazred, which is the same as the writer of the Necronomicon (from HP Lovecraft's writings).Andy_Panthrohttps://www.blogger.com/profile/18231815646876343380noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3387495443226852794.post-54146872639804560302018-07-15T23:46:51.405+10:002018-07-15T23:46:51.405+10:00I still love that gnome puzzle; I think it's o...I still love that gnome puzzle; I think it's one of the best puzzles in the King's Quest series up to this point.Radianthttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03866535042372152723noreply@blogger.com