tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3387495443226852794.post4135774383885698939..comments2024-03-28T18:43:06.423+11:00Comments on The Adventurers Guild: Shadow of the Comet – Development HellThe Tricksterhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/01419316208187255801noreply@blogger.comBlogger20125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3387495443226852794.post-17212799148429305002022-07-13T14:30:58.564+10:002022-07-13T14:30:58.564+10:00You don’t need to know about photography to solve ...You don’t need to know about photography to solve this. All you need to check your first-aid kit. Half of the reagents were regular drugs - just exclude them. For me only 5 ingredients left and I just brute-force them in just 10 minutes.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3387495443226852794.post-6847884122971379802020-06-05T10:40:51.229+10:002020-06-05T10:40:51.229+10:00Could this be a very obscure reference to “Maniac ...Could this be a very obscure reference to “Maniac Mansion” where you first have to overcome the green and later the purple tentacle and also need to develop some photographs at some point? Probably not. Although, you never know, it’s a Lovecraft game after all (y’know, tentacles).Will Moczarskihttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07509711497671899834noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3387495443226852794.post-20976523109269599182020-04-04T14:56:35.070+11:002020-04-04T14:56:35.070+11:00Back when I played the game, in the time before th...Back when I played the game, in the time before the pandemic (a month that feels like a year ago), I did notice that the chemicals were colored in pairs so I tried putting them in that order and was actually very surprised to see that it worked! I think the colors were indeed intended to be a (very subtle) hint.<br /><br />As for the Hambleton boys bug, yes I did encounter that one among a plethora of other little annoyances.Charleshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04398371158920699604noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3387495443226852794.post-9538360683904114592020-04-04T07:09:57.778+11:002020-04-04T07:09:57.778+11:00The photo development puzzle is indeed horrible as...The photo development puzzle is indeed horrible as their is no hint anywhere, breaks a basic rule of puzzle desing in adventure games as you need to seek external knowledge. Just an observation, i am not sure if the designers wanted to help in some way with the colors of the chemical bottles, they are in pairs (Green/Purple) :<br /><br />Development Phase:<br /><br />metol -> Green<br />hydroquinone –> Purple<br /><br />Fixing Phase:<br /><br />sodium hyposulphite -> Green<br />potassium metabisulphite -> Purple<br /><br />I also encountered a bug outside of the dilapidated mansion where you meet the HAMBLETON boys; if you press L, you just try to go past them and you get stuck 4ever.dionoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08342126945399188067noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3387495443226852794.post-40144297246681143462020-03-03T05:41:14.086+11:002020-03-03T05:41:14.086+11:00I should have gone into marketing! ;)I should have gone into marketing! ;)Andy_Panthrohttps://www.blogger.com/profile/18231815646876343380noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3387495443226852794.post-27302379052628841012020-03-03T00:57:12.557+11:002020-03-03T00:57:12.557+11:00Had the dotted lines been extended to apply to all...Had the dotted lines been extended to apply to all hotspots to indicate you're close enough to interact with one, the game's interface would've actually been quite good. What a missed opportunity.Laukkuhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16258625692586860655noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3387495443226852794.post-58548407861477494972020-03-02T22:08:39.558+11:002020-03-02T22:08:39.558+11:00Adventure games, where keys are either hidden behi...Adventure games, where keys are either hidden behind elaborate traps that require an intimate knowledge of a specific translation of Beowulf, or simply shoved under the nearest carpet. With the exception of Police quest nobody simply leaves their keys on the counter or hangs them up with the others. <br /><br />What I would like to see in a game is where you cannot find the keys not matter where you look, until you examine your own hands and realize you had been carrying them around all the time.ShaddamIVthhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02024540172370536692noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3387495443226852794.post-41537826920178347772020-03-02T22:03:42.875+11:002020-03-02T22:03:42.875+11:00Until you mentioned it and I googled it I did not ...Until you mentioned it and I googled it I did not realize it was also a HP Lovecraft adaption. Nice tie-in there!ShaddamIVthhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02024540172370536692noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3387495443226852794.post-13084810254146023402020-03-02T18:14:02.068+11:002020-03-02T18:14:02.068+11:00Hey guys: the final Trinity post is HUGE because t...Hey guys: the final Trinity post is HUGE because there was more game left than I thought and that's on top of covering the final rating. I had hoped for tomorrow, but it will be a couple of days yet. It should be able to make the next slot.<br /><br />On the bright side, it is over and you'll get the "Won!" post very soon.Joe Pranevichhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12997014242774219758noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3387495443226852794.post-2490756766922015582020-03-02T14:37:53.447+11:002020-03-02T14:37:53.447+11:00I gave it some thought, and libraries. I don't...I gave it some thought, and libraries. I don't know why it took me so long to think about, since I regularly visit one. The problem is then if your library has a book on old-timey photography. Or in a few cases, if someone else has the same idea as you.MorpheusKitamihttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16591271981112642781noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3387495443226852794.post-27957112999539482832020-03-02T02:37:22.634+11:002020-03-02T02:37:22.634+11:00The Needle's Eye may be more appropriate - as ...The Needle's Eye may be more appropriate - as I've understood it, Lament Configuration is for puzzles whose premise is silly whereas Needle's Eye is for those that are too difficult. Developing photos makes sense within the context of the story.Laukkuhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16258625692586860655noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3387495443226852794.post-67423703355223480862020-03-01T11:23:21.243+11:002020-03-01T11:23:21.243+11:00Looking at all the comments, it looks as the photo...Looking at all the comments, it looks as the photo development puzzle has earned a nomination for the Lament Configuration Award for 1993.limbeckhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11671884456426769899noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3387495443226852794.post-58916540167072205872020-03-01T11:21:27.849+11:002020-03-01T11:21:27.849+11:00I agree about the statuette puzzle. It was not muc...I agree about the statuette puzzle. It was not much of one. If you fooled around long enough, you would get through. Still, I liked its simple logic. I don't see who would leave these statues lying around after they stabbed JUGG though.<br /><br />As for the lack of feedback, I would definitely welcome some more text when entering a room for the first time. As I said, there was blood everywhere and Parker didn't even blink, or so I surmised from repeatedly pressing L and getting nothing.<br /><br />Thanks for playing the CD-ROM version by the way. I said I would try and play it for comparison, but reading your comments, I am afraid I would rather watch the Colour out of Space with Nicholas Cage, mentioned below.limbeckhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11671884456426769899noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3387495443226852794.post-56159091583199916322020-03-01T11:17:03.749+11:002020-03-01T11:17:03.749+11:00If I didn't have to play it by the book, I wou...If I didn't have to play it by the book, I would be all into the walkthrough by now. I am into adventure games mainly for the stories, so if it is too damn difficult or unfair, I have no guilt looking into it. I don't remember how I solved it back at university times (almost 20 years ago), but I am pretty sure I had looked up the development puzzle in a walkthrough.limbeckhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11671884456426769899noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3387495443226852794.post-57619146288080886412020-03-01T11:14:59.959+11:002020-03-01T11:14:59.959+11:00I can give you half your bet, because I was this c...I can give you half your bet, because I was this close to asking for assistance. If you have no idea at all, you have only 1,680 combinations to choose from. Seriously though, I don't know how somebody would solve this without bruteforcing it in the 90s. Who would they ask? Did encyclopaedias have such information? limbeckhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11671884456426769899noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3387495443226852794.post-38037722997716973892020-03-01T09:43:08.494+11:002020-03-01T09:43:08.494+11:00Somewhere in this section I lost patience with the...Somewhere in this section I lost patience with the puzzles and interface and started consulting a walkthrough almost constantly.<br /><br />Something about the game kept me playing though, so it was doing something right.TBDhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07010934567583163570noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3387495443226852794.post-80796763437174304212020-03-01T04:41:08.957+11:002020-03-01T04:41:08.957+11:00"Black and white works better with astrophoto..."Black and white works better with astrophotography, as there is not really much colour in space"<br /><br />Except for those times when there's a <i>Color Out of Space</i> (now a major motion picture starring Nicolas Cage)Andy_Panthrohttps://www.blogger.com/profile/18231815646876343380noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3387495443226852794.post-85192272530304553422020-03-01T02:54:54.324+11:002020-03-01T02:54:54.324+11:00Congratulations on getting this far without a requ...Congratulations on getting this far without a request. That's truly impressive. I actually got through the development puzzle by semi-brute-forcing it with just one hunch to guide me: the chemicals have three different colors, and I thought I'd try using them in pairs. I got the right combination on the third try. Couldn't tell you now what it was,though!<br /><br />Meanwhile, the puzzle with the statuettes and the books basically solved itself. I had all the objects in my inventory and was just walking randomly around the room, following the laser sight (get) as it appeared. The game magically put everything in their correct locations. After one of these replacements, suddenly a secret door opened! And there was much rejoicing.<br /><br />Embarrassingly, what REALLY stumped me was that on entering the secret room it simply didn't occur to me that JUGG was actually ALIVE and that was not his lifeless corpse lying on the floor... I mean the game doesn't tell you a thing when you enter his secret library. Nothing. The protagonist is equally cavalier about the dreadful scene he's stumbled upon. He'd sooner complain about the poor taste of the decor than acknowledge the human bleeding to death before him. You can even flick through a few books and he'll comment on the contents in a very casual tone. Not that JUGG is any help, mind you. He just lays there, still and silent, with nary a moan to betray his sentient condition. In short, I stupidly assumed JUGG was dead, and spent half an hour trying a lot of stuff, including LOOKing at him from every possible angle... when all I had to do was to say "sup". Lol.<br /><br />The key under the carpet was a mixture of pixel hunting and "new object appears in random location". No clue, no reason to look down at that specific spot. It made me reach for a walkthrough for the second time and it soured me even more on the game. <br /><br />Still, I trudged on. The music is nice. I'm currently a bit further ahead and I'm totally stuck again, but this time I think I'll wait for your next post :-)Charleshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04398371158920699604noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3387495443226852794.post-87865476463963591352020-03-01T02:41:02.814+11:002020-03-01T02:41:02.814+11:00Yeah, I stopped at the photo plate part. I don'...Yeah, I stopped at the photo plate part. I don't really enjoy trying to learn amateur photography in my spooky game about stopping an uncaring being that will atomize me upon its release. Well, I don't enjoy that if its also a pain to move around.MorpheusKitamihttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16591271981112642781noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3387495443226852794.post-73480133366039086372020-03-01T00:21:25.290+11:002020-03-01T00:21:25.290+11:00Dammit, you were able to develop the photos withou...Dammit, you were able to develop the photos without walkthroughs or asking for assistance. Does researching real world knowledge not count as assistance? If so, there goes my bet.Laukkuhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16258625692586860655noreply@blogger.com