tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3387495443226852794.post4043929812415081452..comments2024-03-29T05:52:53.051+11:00Comments on The Adventurers Guild: Timequest - 1361 BC SurveyThe Tricksterhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/01419316208187255801noreply@blogger.comBlogger21125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3387495443226852794.post-65521415372590253752016-10-25T07:10:30.258+11:002016-10-25T07:10:30.258+11:00It would be nice to get some historical games that...It would be nice to get some historical games that educate instead of propogating myths.Canageekhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03770924810559440307noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3387495443226852794.post-46141443686355375682015-08-29T08:36:41.240+10:002015-08-29T08:36:41.240+10:00All this talk about Time Agents makes me think of ...All this talk about Time Agents makes me think of Doctor Who...mostly the ones who get mentioned in "The Talons of Weng-Chiang" as being hypercompetent but who never actually show up. Not so much the sexy but corrupt ones from the Torchwood era.DialMforMarahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05991827182885226471noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3387495443226852794.post-73621941634201942692015-07-03T12:31:31.870+10:002015-07-03T12:31:31.870+10:00Probably because Olmecs were speculated to engage ...Probably because Olmecs were speculated to engage in human sacrifices (as do all ancient Meso-American civilizations).Kenny McCormickhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01553499727945099493noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3387495443226852794.post-19931011344714790432015-07-03T04:18:21.325+10:002015-07-03T04:18:21.325+10:00I am fairly certain we'll never find out wheth...I am fairly certain we'll never find out whether Moses was a real live character or not - it's unlikely there's a grave with his name somewhere.<br /><br />I do like the idea that the story of Exodus might have something to do with the decline of the Egyptian worship of Aten - probably the first attested case of monotheism in history. Aten was briefly set up as the only and official god by the pharaoh Akhenaten (father of king Tut), but after his death, Egypt quickly reverted to more traditional polytheism. It would make sense that the followers of the Aten would have been persecuted afterwards and some of them might have migrated to modern Israel - and this might have evolved later into the story of Exodus.Ilmari Jauhiainenhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01655841880034965950noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3387495443226852794.post-46326631475207062432015-07-03T04:03:18.011+10:002015-07-03T04:03:18.011+10:00@Illmari: Yes, and it had a huge fence around it, ...@Illmari: Yes, and it had a huge fence around it, with an armed guard!Andy_Panthrohttps://www.blogger.com/profile/18231815646876343380noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3387495443226852794.post-29561421981355184132015-07-03T04:00:42.523+10:002015-07-03T04:00:42.523+10:00This could be avoided if the times/places you need...This could be avoided if the times/places you need to be at for certain puzzles were made more clear. Although this could be a way of extending the length of the game, making you visit every location at every timezone...Andy_Panthrohttps://www.blogger.com/profile/18231815646876343380noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3387495443226852794.post-42572271301099361242015-07-03T03:59:30.815+10:002015-07-03T03:59:30.815+10:00I saw the trailer for it, and I wasn't impress...I saw the trailer for it, and I wasn't impressed... I hope it's better than it looks!Andy_Panthrohttps://www.blogger.com/profile/18231815646876343380noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3387495443226852794.post-84541516594539955302015-07-03T03:18:29.327+10:002015-07-03T03:18:29.327+10:00I am familiar with the longevity in the Old Testam...I am familiar with the longevity in the Old Testament, I just don't swallow it.Laerteshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03189425293036224646noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3387495443226852794.post-20554488926638786672015-07-02T23:42:39.127+10:002015-07-02T23:42:39.127+10:00And Steam have at the same time taken the old King...And Steam have at the same time taken the old King's Quest games off the store - why, I have no idea. Surely they would sell more of them if this new one is popular, and even the advertising this game gets might have gotten some curious or nostalgic people to buy the old games.<br /><br />I'm also not a fan of calling the series of 5 episodes "King's Quest: The Complete Collection" - when I first saw that I thought it was a deal with buying all the old games plus this one.TBDhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13815382857422719383noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3387495443226852794.post-8954463525047704122015-07-02T23:25:45.729+10:002015-07-02T23:25:45.729+10:00http://store.steampowered.com/app/345390/
Motherf...http://store.steampowered.com/app/345390/<br /><br />Motherfriggin' King's Quest reboot is out, yo!Kenny McCormickhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01553499727945099493noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3387495443226852794.post-16627346831865026992015-07-02T23:25:08.690+10:002015-07-02T23:25:08.690+10:00That's true. Abraham, Solomon, Adam, Moses... ...That's true. Abraham, Solomon, Adam, Moses... All the holy men lived beyond centuries. The only holy men who did not, were branded as martyrs.Kenny McCormickhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01553499727945099493noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3387495443226852794.post-38572196331438968122015-07-02T13:14:09.474+10:002015-07-02T13:14:09.474+10:00Wasn't Stonehenge just outside London airport ...Wasn't Stonehenge just outside London airport in Zak Mccracken?Ilmari Jauhiainenhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01655841880034965950noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3387495443226852794.post-33297199235123842352015-07-02T10:10:29.472+10:002015-07-02T10:10:29.472+10:00Just as a broad suggestion given I was recently re...Just as a broad suggestion given I was recently reading up a 'bad puzzle solutions' thing and Space Quest 2 was listed - have you tried 'swim south' instead of just 'south' in the instance where it talks about your death wish? (I am of course referring to 'dive' not working unless you 'hold breath' first).Aperamahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13669724908141286435noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3387495443226852794.post-56900338321928535182015-07-02T08:32:12.287+10:002015-07-02T08:32:12.287+10:00Yep, the author's notes in the manual mentions...Yep, the author's notes in the manual mentions shrinking distances too. Dover to Stonehenge, Peking to the Great Wall, etc. All to make the story possible.Reikohttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07326356159794723662noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3387495443226852794.post-27316983846645861432015-07-02T06:20:31.949+10:002015-07-02T06:20:31.949+10:00I'm a huge fan of time travel stories and game...I'm a huge fan of time travel stories and games but this game in particular seems quite difficult gameplay-wise. I hate games that have the story progress by needing you to stand at one place at a particular time without any clue about it, I always feel like I'm missing something...Alfred n the Fettuchttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15586336731691674651noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3387495443226852794.post-41766290626765474342015-07-02T04:55:32.284+10:002015-07-02T04:55:32.284+10:00Google suggests walking from Dover to Stonehenge w...Google suggests walking from Dover to Stonehenge would take about 51 hours... but this isn't the first game to shrink the distances between landmarks, and it surely won't be the last!Andy_Panthrohttps://www.blogger.com/profile/18231815646876343380noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3387495443226852794.post-56979284956828338782015-07-02T03:38:29.399+10:002015-07-02T03:38:29.399+10:00Biblical longevity is a consistent trope in the ea...Biblical longevity is a consistent trope in the early histories, especially in Genesis and in the early portion of Exodus. I wrote about this on my blog a while back: http://coatofmanycolors.net/2013/08/26/timeline-of-genesis-from-adam-to-joseph/<br /><br />When I wrote that, I stopped at Abraham, but there is some evidence that longer lifespans continued for a while because some of Moses's ancestors lived a strangely long about of time when you look at how many generations there was between Joseph's time and Moses's time, versus how many years are said to have passed. I don't recall the details immediately.<br /><br />That doesn't mean that I agree with the historicity of the account, but it goes some way of explaining that.<br /><br />On a more historical footing, I think there is some evidence that while there may have been a migration of some peoples from Egypt, the census counts in the various books are quite exaggerated. It's also likely that the immigrant tribes mixed with existing tribes to form the hodgepodge of related tribes that we see starting in the book of "Judges". But that question gets complex quickly and I can't do it justice here. Joe Pranevichhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12997014242774219758noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3387495443226852794.post-19913389254745329302015-07-02T03:22:43.892+10:002015-07-02T03:22:43.892+10:00Well, I am under the impression that the consensus...Well, I am under the impression that the consensus is that there is no actual evidence of the Exodus ever happenning. And it is difficult to imagine an 80 year old man (a 2nd millenium BC 80 year old man, not a current 80 year old man, which surely is not the same) leading the people through the desert.Laerteshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03189425293036224646noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3387495443226852794.post-10739915789320459512015-07-02T02:15:51.854+10:002015-07-02T02:15:51.854+10:00So why exactly are the Olmecs cannibals?
I should...So why exactly are the Olmecs cannibals?<br /><br />I should have a lot to say about the Exodus timetable, and I suppose I do, but I will save that for my own blog another day. Just... can't even start.Joe Pranevichhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12997014242774219758noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3387495443226852794.post-28121217634244887732015-07-02T01:05:15.209+10:002015-07-02T01:05:15.209+10:00Definitely outdated Egyptology, and definitely the...Definitely outdated Egyptology, and definitely the Convenient Eclipse trope.<br /><br />Good catch on the Hanging Gardens. I didn't even think about the fact that that wouldn't have existed for hundreds of years yet at that point.<br /><br />I read the mission briefings online, but I only briefly skimmed through the manual since most of it was about game setup. I just reread the one I found online and didn't see the paragraphs you mentioned. So I found another source for the manual. Apparently the one I originally referred to was cut off at page 40, so it didn't include the author's notes at the end, or anything after the sample transcript. Those notes are pretty interesting. I guess I should stop complaining about the historical inaccuracies so much since many of them were intentional in service to gameplay. But feel free to keep pointing out in the comments ones I miss!Reikohttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07326356159794723662noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3387495443226852794.post-19105528145581712782015-07-01T23:23:18.501+10:002015-07-01T23:23:18.501+10:00It's interesting to see what the manual says:
...It's interesting to see what the manual says:<br /><br />"Some parts of the game are almost true, or could have been true - or are at least plausible. For example, the Old Testament does not record the name of the pharaoh whose daughter pulled Moses from the Nile. Accepted chronologies, however, put the year of the Exodus at around 1290 BC and state that Moses was around 80 years old at the time. Working backwards, I conclude that he was born sometime between 1360 and 1370 BC. King Tut was nine years old at the start of his reign in 1361 BC, so it doesn't seem unreasonable to put Tut and his sister in the scene where Moses and his cradle come floating down the river."<br /><br />The year 1361 BC is something that appears as the coronation year of Tutankhamen in several places, when googling (in some books also). I wonder, if this is a case of game following an earlier, outdated piece of egyptology - it is over two decades old, after all.<br /><br />"Speaking of 1361 BC, while there was an eclipse that year (the first in recorded<br />history), purists will note that it took place in China rather than Mexico, and that<br />it was a lunar rather than solar eclipse."<br /><br />Well, he's definitely admitting that detail was wrong ;) Probably he just wanted to use the Convenient Eclipse trope, in which the hero is just about to be sacrificed by Incas, Aztecs, Mayas or whatever Native American tribe the creator of film, TV episode, comic book etc. concocted, except he happens to know just today an eclipse will occur. Cliche done to death, these days.<br /><br />There's also one other historical error the manual points out:<br /><br />"All the buildings in the game had actually been erected by the time you see<br />them, except the Hanging Gardens of Babylon and the Tower of Babel. These<br />you visit in 1361 BC, even though Nebuchadnezzar didn't build them until<br />around 600 BC. "Ilmari Jauhiainenhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01655841880034965950noreply@blogger.com