tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3387495443226852794.post3304804156727309350..comments2024-03-29T01:07:22.708+11:00Comments on The Adventurers Guild: Companion Assist Points ExplainedThe Tricksterhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/01419316208187255801noreply@blogger.comBlogger37125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3387495443226852794.post-47049482748252476982015-06-29T06:45:44.262+10:002015-06-29T06:45:44.262+10:00Dear, this was 3 years ago, I have no idea. Dear, this was 3 years ago, I have no idea. Canageekhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03770924810559440307noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3387495443226852794.post-59596311817373679442015-06-29T05:17:35.915+10:002015-06-29T05:17:35.915+10:00Canageek, did you earn points for this?Canageek, did you earn points for this?DialMforMarahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05991827182885226471noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3387495443226852794.post-17027301918030048012012-06-08T03:15:09.283+10:002012-06-08T03:15:09.283+10:00Nice one Canageek. You've saved someone from h...Nice one Canageek. You've saved someone from having to spend 50 CAPs down the track. Please let me know any arrangements you have with anyone. I'd hate for you to not receive your due.The Tricksterhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01419316208187255801noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3387495443226852794.post-19368625459237971092012-06-06T10:27:49.902+10:002012-06-06T10:27:49.902+10:00Trickster: I'm having trouble getting the list...Trickster: I'm having trouble getting the list to work, but Tex Murphy: Overseer is now on it. I can easily add any game to the list that has a full wikipedia entry, but it would take a decent number of points to get me to write one from scratch.Canageekhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03770924810559440307noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3387495443226852794.post-30953524656281063142012-06-06T09:52:01.335+10:002012-06-06T09:52:01.335+10:00Ok, Step one was spending a bunch of time with Reg...Ok, Step one was spending a bunch of time with Regex and the list, to make it into a table. Now I can add games easily and let Wikipedia worry about the order. <br /><br />http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_graphic_adventure_games right? I left space for the publisher, platform and notes, if any of you want to help fill that in.Canageekhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03770924810559440307noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3387495443226852794.post-80092898939432178882012-06-06T08:43:02.373+10:002012-06-06T08:43:02.373+10:00o.0 Nothing, not with a wikipedia page on it alrea...o.0 Nothing, not with a wikipedia page on it already. I can just link to that.Canageekhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03770924810559440307noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3387495443226852794.post-72165220781599722012-06-04T14:42:58.332+10:002012-06-04T14:42:58.332+10:00I can do that. What do you need for it to be added...I can do that. What do you need for it to be added to the list in addition to the wikipedia posting on it? http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tex_Murphy:_OverseerLars-Erikhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17853818944579785754noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3387495443226852794.post-54915037534200409272012-06-03T07:12:16.181+10:002012-06-03T07:12:16.181+10:00Yeah, but then I realized I'd have to write a ...Yeah, but then I realized I'd have to write a full post on it. I'll help if you do the hard work writing it.Canageekhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03770924810559440307noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3387495443226852794.post-90812257553212571462012-05-31T07:02:37.335+10:002012-05-31T07:02:37.335+10:00Oooh...not sure what you mean by secondary source,...Oooh...not sure what you mean by secondary source, but here's some links:<br />Publisher: http://www.microsoft.com/games/texmurphy/overseer/<br />Mobygames: http://www.mobygames.com/game/windows/tex-murphy-overseer<br />4/5 review on AdventureGamers: http://www.adventuregamers.com/articles/view/17494<br />5/5 review on ClassicAdventureGaming: http://www.adventureclassicgaming.com/index.php/site/reviews/61/<br /><br />Are these the kind of thing you need?Lars-Erikhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17853818944579785754noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3387495443226852794.post-53817798519167832832012-05-31T06:50:11.638+10:002012-05-31T06:50:11.638+10:00Hey, get me a secondary source documenting the gam...Hey, get me a secondary source documenting the game and I'll have a look at adding it. Must make the list complete....Canageekhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03770924810559440307noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3387495443226852794.post-9303095925205464092012-05-31T02:29:28.082+10:002012-05-31T02:29:28.082+10:00The Wikipedia list is missing Tex Murphy: Overseer...The Wikipedia list is missing Tex Murphy: Overseer from 1998, even though the rest of the Tex Murphy games are there. So I've booked my 50 points on at already, even though it's a 150 or so games in the future.<br /><br />Don't worry, you'll thank me for it. :)Lars-Erikhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17853818944579785754noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3387495443226852794.post-29155538564864537382012-05-27T19:03:10.912+10:002012-05-27T19:03:10.912+10:00It's of course completely up to Trickster whet...It's of course completely up to Trickster whether and how he will use my suggestions, but I originally thought it wouldn't have to be necessary to complete the game, just like Trick doesn't need to complete every game he starts.Ilmari Jauhiainenhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01655841880034965950noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3387495443226852794.post-26818089522937198532012-05-27T10:46:04.646+10:002012-05-27T10:46:04.646+10:00Do we have to finish it? I'd be willing to pla...Do we have to finish it? I'd be willing to play along and give status updates as I go.Canageekhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03770924810559440307noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3387495443226852794.post-72720408589882001432012-05-27T10:44:19.441+10:002012-05-27T10:44:19.441+10:00Is this a bad time to mention that I've worked...Is this a bad time to mention that I've worked on Wikipedia since 2007, and edited some of Wikipedia's games lists in the past? :D <br />But don't worry, I'd never inaccurately classify a game. Now if someone pointed out an adventure game that WASN'T already on the list, it is my DUTY to add it. :DCanageekhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03770924810559440307noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3387495443226852794.post-47542558783673258492012-05-27T05:43:19.007+10:002012-05-27T05:43:19.007+10:00Thanks for the answers and clarifications. The hin...Thanks for the answers and clarifications. The hint & spoiler rule seems now to be well balanced. And regarding my last question - the first criteria under Accepted game -definition "1. It has at least 20 votes on Moby Games" mislead me, as I did not notice the exact definition under the Potential game definition. My bad.Fenrushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17119088094426124666noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3387495443226852794.post-70271883946122515242012-05-27T04:45:25.872+10:002012-05-27T04:45:25.872+10:00I like these two suggestions, and I was already pl...I like these two suggestions, and I was already planning on playing through the Quest for Glory series. If I could actually earn points, maybe there are other games I'd play along.Zenic Reveriehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16441583549326102945noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3387495443226852794.post-65567356100679907682012-05-27T03:21:46.688+10:002012-05-27T03:21:46.688+10:00@Zenic: No, I'm not into gambling (too cautiou...@Zenic: No, I'm not into gambling (too cautious for that), but I am a stickler for clear rules :)Ilmari Jauhiainenhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01655841880034965950noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3387495443226852794.post-26616263654129000922012-05-27T03:18:13.581+10:002012-05-27T03:18:13.581+10:00Most of the ways to earn CAPs favour those who alr...Most of the ways to earn CAPs favour those who already know the games to be played. I have two suggestions for rectifying this.<br /><br />1. In the past people have been willing to play along some games with you. I think this could be encouraged by giving points for it. Of course, just announcing that one will be playing along shouldn't be enough (that would be too easy). Perhaps a small review of the gaming experience in the comments would be a sufficient requirement?<br /><br />2. There will most likely be some games that won't make it into your playing list. Still, the readers might want to know what these games are like, and there might be readers willing to play them and share their experience with the others. So, detailed commentaries and reviews of the rejected games could be a way to earn points (obviously more points would be earned than in case 1, because there would be more work). These commentaries could then be published as "guest appearances" in your blog, or stored somewhere else if you'd prefer it that way.Ilmari Jauhiainenhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01655841880034965950noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3387495443226852794.post-7509981118695126812012-05-26T15:00:54.728+10:002012-05-26T15:00:54.728+10:00Edited the hint / spoiler without a Request for As...Edited the hint / spoiler without a Request for Assistance line to read:<br /><br />1. Giving a clearly marked hint / spoiler that is not directly related to a Request for Assistance to assist The Trickster, coded in ROT13. A reader would only do this if it's clear that The Trickster has hit a dead end or missed a required item and therefore needs assistance without knowing it. Please note that I will no longer award any reader that posts hints or spoilers for puzzles in advance, or for which I do not yet require any assistance. You're welcome to discuss spoilers in ROT13 at any time, but please mark them as Spoiler - Do Not Read Trickster.The Tricksterhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01419316208187255801noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3387495443226852794.post-53307619062725581022012-05-26T14:16:50.297+10:002012-05-26T14:16:50.297+10:00I'll try to answer all your excellent question...I'll try to answer all your excellent questions in turn:<br /><br />I will no longer be rewarding readers who post spoilers in advance of me requiring assistance. Otherwise readers will basically start posting the entire walkthrough in ROT13 in the hope of claiming points later (this has already started happening). The ONLY reasons to post spoilers for me are because I've made a Request for Assistance, or because you can tell that I've done something incorrect or missed an item that is required (and am basically screwed). If people want to discuss things in the game I haven't got to yet then that's fine, but they should do so in ROT13 and be clearly marked as Spoiler - Don't Read Trickster or something like that.<br /><br />That's a good idea.<br /><br />I intend to do this, starting today.<br /><br />No. Remember that Potential Games must be listed as an Adventure game on Moby Games with at least 10 votes OR be on the Wikipedia Notable Graphics Adventure Games list. Doom is very unlikely to meet any of that criteria as it would never be labelled as an adventure game.The Tricksterhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01419316208187255801noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3387495443226852794.post-4867702512880381582012-05-26T14:04:19.062+10:002012-05-26T14:04:19.062+10:00Haha..while betting against other people's bet...Haha..while betting against other people's bets seems like a reasonable idea, I'd like to keep things as simple as possible for now. If the whole betting thing works out, then we might be able to expand on it in time. And yes, if it does indeed work, then I owe Fenrus another 10 points! :)<br /><br />I hadn't actually considered whether multiple people can make the same bet. Hmmm...I'm going to say no...for now. Otherwise we'll come up against a game with a truly impossible puzzle, and every reader will bet against me. I'll stipulate only one bet per puzzle in the post.The Tricksterhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01419316208187255801noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3387495443226852794.post-20073007024833286282012-05-26T14:00:50.542+10:002012-05-26T14:00:50.542+10:00Oh do tell! I'm intrigued!Oh do tell! I'm intrigued!The Tricksterhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01419316208187255801noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3387495443226852794.post-34450078280607014062012-05-26T07:06:58.125+10:002012-05-26T07:06:58.125+10:00I'm not sure if you like gambling or clear rul...I'm not sure if you like gambling or clear rules. Maybe both? ;)Zenic Reveriehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16441583549326102945noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3387495443226852794.post-5994970108632598832012-05-26T05:59:14.721+10:002012-05-26T05:59:14.721+10:00The rules look pretty clear and good - we will see...The rules look pretty clear and good - we will see how this is going to work in practice! A couple of questions / comments / suggestions:<br /><br />-So it is still ok to post hints/spoilers (of course in rot13) already in the first posts without a Request for Assistance? If the competition for points is going to start for real, then the readers who would like to wait and see whether you get stuck or not (before posting hints) have a huge disadvantage, as the hints you are going to need probably already exist when you get stuck.<br /><br />-You could state in the introduction post of each game, if the game is "spoiler-free" (already familiar to you) and there is no need to rot13 the comments. <br /><br />-In order to communicate the commenting guidelines & rules to new and irregular readers (and to remind us regulars), you could place a link e.g. "Read this before posting comments that include hints/spoilers", which would be placed just before/after the comment textbox. If that is technically possible to modify these settings, of course.<br /><br />-Is it possible for us to pool 200 points to make you play Doom (when you get to 1993 or whenever it was released..)? I assume it has over 20 votes in MobyGames, thus fulfilling criteria 1. I would love to see that in "The Adventure Gamer" blog! Just kidding, but is this possible in theory or should the disregarded games still have some kind of connection to adventure games?Fenrushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17119088094426124666noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3387495443226852794.post-65973534300117442852012-05-26T04:15:00.457+10:002012-05-26T04:15:00.457+10:00Few questions about the betting:
Will more than o...Few questions about the betting:<br /><br />Will more than one person be able to bet on the same puzzle or will you take into account only the first bet for every puzzle?<br /><br />Can we bet against other people's bets (say, if Alfred bets that you will not beat puzzle X without assistance, can I bet 10 points that you will get through it without any help)?<br /><br />And if the betting is to become a regular feature, shouldn't Fenrus get 10 points for introducing the whole concept? ;)Ilmari Jauhiainenhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01655841880034965950noreply@blogger.com