tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3387495443226852794.post1754443946224955224..comments2024-03-19T12:29:03.637+11:00Comments on The Adventurers Guild: Missed Classic 35: Zork II: The Wizard of Frobozz (1981) - IntroductionThe Tricksterhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/01419316208187255801noreply@blogger.comBlogger31125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3387495443226852794.post-66941652471393367852017-01-18T15:43:49.361+11:002017-01-18T15:43:49.361+11:00That guide is perfect! And confirms what I already...That guide is perfect! And confirms what I already thought. So I will not need to really pay attention to the Zork manuals until after Enchanter and the 1984 re-releases. Thanks!Joe Pranevichhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12997014242774219758noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3387495443226852794.post-9509778773344925122017-01-18T15:16:42.494+11:002017-01-18T15:16:42.494+11:00"Releases of Zork I, II, and III beyond those..."Releases of Zork I, II, and III beyond those mentioned above but before the grey boxes are counted among the "folios" as well, although they looked different and are referred to as "blister packs." They had a thin cardboard with a plastic tray attached to the front and contained nothing but a sheet with instructions and the disk. The disk was either a 5 1/4" or an 8" and naturally the size of the pack varied with the disk provided."<br /><br />Source: https://www.infocom-if.org/more/boxes/boxes.html<br /><br />And looking at this page:<br />http://pdd.if-legends.org/infocom/fact-sheet.txt<br /><br />...it seems that the manuals appeared only with the "grey box" versions of Zorks.Ilmari Jauhiainenhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01655841880034965950noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3387495443226852794.post-17055612106512029912017-01-18T14:14:01.669+11:002017-01-18T14:14:01.669+11:00Hello, friends! I need some history help.
I know...Hello, friends! I need some history help. <br /><br />I know that Deadline had feelies in 1982, but beyond that I am unable to confirm when the updated versions of Zork I and II were released with the new manuals... and I also believe that the first versions of Zork III were released vanilla. The first time I can see all of the GUE backstory in the Zork manuals are in the 1984 re-releases. Even the initial Zork III manuals are pretty basic. <br /><br />I'm not an expert here, but do any of you know this for sure? Joe Pranevichhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12997014242774219758noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3387495443226852794.post-21547818875502484722017-01-18T02:48:07.977+11:002017-01-18T02:48:07.977+11:00It never occurred to me, despite reading more than...It never occurred to me, despite reading more than a dozen Grimm stories in the original German, that Rumple would be spelled "Rumpelstilzchen" in German. The -chen suffix should have been obvious, even though my German is no longer adequate enough to be able to recall what the other parts of his name mean. <br /><br />Any German speakers want to comment on the etymology? Joe Pranevichhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12997014242774219758noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3387495443226852794.post-63197747459570720132017-01-15T22:37:16.986+11:002017-01-15T22:37:16.986+11:00Oooh - obscure Lemmings reference - I like it.
Al...Oooh - obscure Lemmings reference - I like it.<br /><br />Also, I guess 33!!!TBDhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13815382857422719383noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3387495443226852794.post-75788666738792736862017-01-15T22:36:27.478+11:002017-01-15T22:36:27.478+11:00I'm pretty sure I only know the word barrow be...I'm pretty sure I only know the word barrow because of Lord of the Rings - I used to look up words I didn't know as I read.TBDhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13815382857422719383noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3387495443226852794.post-5173288457237957372017-01-15T13:18:06.691+11:002017-01-15T13:18:06.691+11:00Aha. Yeah, I didn't know that, that'd make...Aha. Yeah, I didn't know that, that'd make it a bit more difficult.<br /><br />Sounds like something you could probably figure out from just trying all four immediately logical potential solutions, though. I think.Adamantnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3387495443226852794.post-53029661720389626842017-01-15T08:47:57.087+11:002017-01-15T08:47:57.087+11:00Problem is, to fully get the problem, you'd al...Problem is, to fully get the problem, you'd also have to know that ehyr 1.04 bs bssvpvny onfronyy ehyrf fgngrf gung "Vg vf qrfvenoyr gung gur yvar sebz ubzr onfr guebhtu gur cvgpuref cyngr gb frpbaq onfr funyy eha Rnfg-Abegurnfg". Vs lbh qba'g xabj guvf dhvgr fznyy gvqovg bs onfronyy ehyrf - ubj gur guerr onfrf ner gb or bssvpvnyyl fvghngrq (svefg onfr FR sebz ubzr cyngr, frpbaq onfr AR sebz svefg onfr rgp.) - gur qverpgvbaf lbh unir gb gnxr jba'g znxr nal frafr. Gb znxr gur znggref jbefr, nccneragyl bayl n zvabevgl bs onfronyy svryqf npghnyyl sbyybjf guvf ehyr.Ilmari Jauhiainenhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01655841880034965950noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3387495443226852794.post-43240964479435424892017-01-15T07:10:07.559+11:002017-01-15T07:10:07.559+11:00I'm not actually American either, but abe nz V...I'm not actually American either, but abe nz V cnegvphyneyl snzvyvne jvgu onfronyy, ohg gur pyho jvgu gur Onor Ehgu ersrerapr naq gur gnyx nobhg lbh abg trggvat gb svefg onfr fcryyf vg bhg fb urnivyl rira gubfr jvgu rkgerzryl ehqvzragnel xabjyrqtr bs gur fcbg unir n qrprag rabhtu punapr gb trg vg.<br /><br />I'd say the Rumpelstilzchen puzzle in the original King's Quest is far more unfair, since you have to work with a very specific spelling of the name that most non-native speakers won't be familiar with at all.Adamantnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3387495443226852794.post-11321908863312347122017-01-11T06:33:20.854+11:002017-01-11T06:33:20.854+11:00Oh yes, this puzzle made me scream in frustration,...Oh yes, this puzzle made me scream in frustration, as above mentioned non-American I unq ab pyhr bs gur ehyrf bs onfronyy, V qvqa´g rira erpbtavmr vg nf onfronyy.<br /><br />I guess this will fare a bit better scorewise, so I say 40Lupus Yonderboyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00480213869011573953noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3387495443226852794.post-63228677918813012342017-01-10T14:42:11.048+11:002017-01-10T14:42:11.048+11:00It's also a pretty unfair puzzle, if you don&#...It's also a pretty unfair puzzle, if you don't know the intricacies of onfronyy, which is most likely true of many non-Americans.Ilmari Jauhiainenhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01655841880034965950noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3387495443226852794.post-89406202552670392152017-01-10T05:03:24.611+11:002017-01-10T05:03:24.611+11:00Also, I see 39 isn't taken yet, so I'll go...Also, I see 39 isn't taken yet, so I'll go for that.Adamantnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3387495443226852794.post-69624000342277847822017-01-10T05:00:28.033+11:002017-01-10T05:00:28.033+11:00Never actually played this game, but the one thing...Never actually played this game, but the one thing I know about it is how to solve the Oddly Angled Room puzzle. It's pretty clever, and I think you'll manage to figure it out without help.Adamantnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3387495443226852794.post-23070987960414101692017-01-09T05:57:23.357+11:002017-01-09T05:57:23.357+11:00Put me down for a guess of 36.
As for why the cak...Put me down for a guess of 36.<br /><br />As for why the cakes disintegrate after the section is done: my only guess is they didn't want to come up with (and/or didn't have the space for, as the case may be) code to try to use the cakes outside of the Wonderland section. (I think I once tried to eat the "Eat me" cake outside of Wonderland in the Inform port of the mainframe Dungeon - I think I was actually trying to use it to get past a narrow crack somewhere - but it didn't do anything.)<br /><br />Yes, in the original dungeon, there are only seven exits from the Round room. The exit where the riddle is is used twice. Perhaps this is to make it more likely to find that area early on... In Zork 2, you can get shoved out of any one of the seven main exits, but "Room 8" is only reachable after the room is turned off.Griffinhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14964327130433897942noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3387495443226852794.post-43158869633489440162017-01-07T02:55:36.087+11:002017-01-07T02:55:36.087+11:00Zork II! Forsooth, for fun, frenetic frustrations...Zork II! Forsooth, for fun, frenetic frustrations!<br /><br />I have lots to say but now's not the time to say any of it. I'll limit myself to one Fun Fact: your guess is correct that "Room 8" - and its can of grue repellant - can only be accessed after the Carousel Room's spinning effect has been shut off.Voltglosshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07893726442063421240noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3387495443226852794.post-7043725778499140772017-01-07T01:09:41.315+11:002017-01-07T01:09:41.315+11:00Since nobody's guessed it yet...33!Since nobody's guessed it yet...33!Paul Franzenhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12534869887402015019noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3387495443226852794.post-10884371163279602282017-01-06T16:01:11.203+11:002017-01-06T16:01:11.203+11:00Hello, 35!Hello, 35!Bradhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06204901637975146609noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3387495443226852794.post-36175445996490787812017-01-06T16:01:04.263+11:002017-01-06T16:01:04.263+11:00Hello, 35!Hello, 35!Bradhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06204901637975146609noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3387495443226852794.post-70283719805594406552017-01-06T12:49:08.434+11:002017-01-06T12:49:08.434+11:00Welcome! I'm glad you could join us for our Zo...Welcome! I'm glad you could join us for our Zork marathon. I'm having a lot of fun with this series so far.Joe Pranevichhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12997014242774219758noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3387495443226852794.post-79356343955965248592017-01-06T11:07:02.660+11:002017-01-06T11:07:02.660+11:00Also I'm pretty invested in this one. This wa...Also I'm pretty invested in this one. This was one of the first videogames I ever played, on an Apple IIe, in the mid 80s, and as a child under ten I was not up to the challenge of solving - well, basically anything. That wizard was incredibly frustrating though, and I'm going to take some vicarious pleasure in you eventually giving him his comeuppance.GregThttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01532920274312703426noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3387495443226852794.post-28348058566735030722017-01-06T11:04:11.566+11:002017-01-06T11:04:11.566+11:00First time commenter but I'm going to guess 37...First time commenter but I'm going to guess 37.GregThttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01532920274312703426noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3387495443226852794.post-85047100634799731492017-01-06T09:32:26.637+11:002017-01-06T09:32:26.637+11:00I suppose there's no hope that you'll be a...I suppose there's no hope that you'll be able to fit "Zork II: The Tribes" either?Andy_Panthrohttps://www.blogger.com/profile/18231815646876343380noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3387495443226852794.post-64811957083264253742017-01-06T07:35:33.959+11:002017-01-06T07:35:33.959+11:003030Evan Stephenshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/18049739394359362973noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3387495443226852794.post-70807972604381027162017-01-06T06:55:04.706+11:002017-01-06T06:55:04.706+11:00I'll have to try to use that title in a future...I'll have to try to use that title in a future post... I suspect this one will be done in two posts though. Joe Pranevichhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12997014242774219758noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3387495443226852794.post-6622235663872960912017-01-06T06:42:43.031+11:002017-01-06T06:42:43.031+11:00You know how to hurt me. I suppose it's a word...You know how to hurt me. I suppose it's a word that I intuitively understood because I've heard it before (and it is cognate with "burrow") but not one that I really thought about. But outside that use in LoTR, I'm not sure I use that word very often...<br /><br />Joe Pranevichhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12997014242774219758noreply@blogger.com