tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3387495443226852794.post6694748039230421894..comments2024-03-29T05:52:53.051+11:00Comments on The Adventurers Guild: Game 49: Elvira, Mistress of the Dark - Final RatingThe Tricksterhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/01419316208187255801noreply@blogger.comBlogger17125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3387495443226852794.post-23488312677085020232015-03-29T12:06:53.292+11:002015-03-29T12:06:53.292+11:00Kenny: I bet the boo-graphics were distracting you...Kenny: I bet the boo-graphics were distracting you.Canageekhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03770924810559440307noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3387495443226852794.post-15633023154984691422015-02-28T02:27:16.310+11:002015-02-28T02:27:16.310+11:00Yeah, had to watch it from the sidelines but I'...Yeah, had to watch it from the sidelines but I'm happy to see it turned out so well! Personally I never considered Elvira much of an RPG, and as an adventure it was flawed, but to me it was all about the creepy characters, the gruesome deaths and most of all the dense atmosphere. The original Alone in the Dark hit a similar tone a couple of years later, but managed to excel in all those areas where Elvira was lacking.Charleshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04860506019349657883noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3387495443226852794.post-36811340332115322082015-02-27T11:14:12.840+11:002015-02-27T11:14:12.840+11:00Really? I was actually handling myself pretty well...Really? I was actually handling myself pretty well in fights playing Waxworks but the puzzles were what got me.Kenny McCormickhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01553499727945099493noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3387495443226852794.post-20829873183126662622015-02-27T11:12:23.814+11:002015-02-27T11:12:23.814+11:00I think they got the license just so they could ge...I think they got the license just so they could get gigantic posters of Elvira for free to hang on their office walls to... inspire... er... their creativity. Yeah. I'm sure that's what they do with them boobi- POSTERS! I mean, posters.Kenny McCormickhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01553499727945099493noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3387495443226852794.post-57317709138488465652015-02-27T05:38:41.900+11:002015-02-27T05:38:41.900+11:00It was in the Wizard and Princess -posts. We decid...It was in the Wizard and Princess -posts. We decided to score them at the same time as the Elvira -posts.Ilmari Jauhiainenhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01655841880034965950noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3387495443226852794.post-72720395180073070552015-02-27T05:19:15.072+11:002015-02-27T05:19:15.072+11:00Did I talk about King's Quest trivia? I couldn...Did I talk about King's Quest trivia? I couldn't find it in a quick skim of Elvira posts, though there are a lot of other intervening posts so I might have missed it.<br /><br />I was really worried about my score guess when someone recapped the guesses so far, and my guess was the highest (with a pretty broad spectrum). Apparently even I was too conservative!Fryhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07805219432946673379noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3387495443226852794.post-84490397642022829852015-02-26T22:23:21.740+11:002015-02-26T22:23:21.740+11:00I would argue against that. I think Elvira 2 and W...I would argue against that. I think Elvira 2 and Waxworks delve too much into dungeon crawling to be considered adventure games. Elvira 2 has just 1 out of 3 different scenarios with puzzles, while the other two are more or less pure hack'n'slash. Waxworks is even worse in that regard, as there are very few puzzles compared to the huge amount of dungeon crawling.Deimarhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14617180555446326291noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3387495443226852794.post-24200405240484566992015-02-26T22:19:04.180+11:002015-02-26T22:19:04.180+11:00I'm sure it was a design choice in Elvira 2 (a...I'm sure it was a design choice in Elvira 2 (although Elvira is even less relevant in that game), probably for keeping the trend set in this one. <br /><br />However, I read somewhere than when they got the rights they were making an Uninvited clone. They just threw the character in that game and called it a day. I don't have any reliable source for that comment though but seeing how little it has to do with anything Elvira it makes sense.Deimarhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14617180555446326291noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3387495443226852794.post-91065293167954546182015-02-26T21:48:47.543+11:002015-02-26T21:48:47.543+11:00Yaaaay, I got 5 points. Gotta be more active.Yaaaay, I got 5 points. Gotta be more active.Laukkuhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16258625692586860655noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3387495443226852794.post-8111338613310101942015-02-26T13:57:00.760+11:002015-02-26T13:57:00.760+11:00Chocolate ... coffee ... I'll just take some t...Chocolate ... coffee ... I'll just take some tea, thanks!<br /><br />But I have a feeling that no one will be able to keep Kenny down for long. Joe Pranevichhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12997014242774219758noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3387495443226852794.post-58472360340844389932015-02-26T11:03:57.056+11:002015-02-26T11:03:57.056+11:00As one whom had played Elvira 2, I don't think...As one whom had played Elvira 2, I don't think they got the license late and just put her in the game later.<br /><br />It is definitely a design choice because that's what happened in Elvira 2.<br /><br />There is a very popular game franchise from Nintendo that has the titular character doing nothing but waiting to get rescued too - The Legend Of Zelda.Kenny McCormickhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01553499727945099493noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3387495443226852794.post-71630019785233345562015-02-26T10:56:01.609+11:002015-02-26T10:56:01.609+11:00We can all blame Trickster for that. Elvira 2 and ...We can all blame Trickster for that. Elvira 2 and Waxworks made great improvements with this game engine. There is no reason to kick this franchise off the Adventure Game list other than to sneakily reduce the number of games on it.Kenny McCormickhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01553499727945099493noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3387495443226852794.post-43988555785874551972015-02-26T07:25:46.487+11:002015-02-26T07:25:46.487+11:00Funny to see Elvira get so high a score, when it w...Funny to see Elvira get so high a score, when it was regarded with so much skepticism and Charles had to literally beg people to spend their CAPs on it. Of course, it seems very much a game that might divide opinions, because the emphasis on combat could alienate some players.Ilmari Jauhiainenhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01655841880034965950noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3387495443226852794.post-90070788269490144822015-02-26T07:05:01.230+11:002015-02-26T07:05:01.230+11:00Nice to see there's some movement in the leade...Nice to see there's some movement in the leaderboard, it was so static for a long time. I'll open a box of chocolates in honour of Joe's meteoric rise!Ilmari Jauhiainenhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01655841880034965950noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3387495443226852794.post-43177288637211178622015-02-26T05:15:42.629+11:002015-02-26T05:15:42.629+11:00CAP leaderboard updated.
With his Missed Classic...CAP leaderboard updated. <br /><br />With his Missed Classic of Wizard and the Princess, Joe Pranevich hits the top 10! <br /><br />I'd get out the champagne in your honour, but it's 5am so I'll settle for some coffee.TBDhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07010934567583163570noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3387495443226852794.post-78127099876854308542015-02-26T04:52:06.524+11:002015-02-26T04:52:06.524+11:00Horrorsoft definitely had some kind of rights to E...Horrorsoft definitely had some kind of rights to Elvira back in 1989, as you can see from Personal Nightmare (1989)<br /><br />http://www.mobygames.com/game/a-personal-nightmare<br /><br />In that game, she only appeared on the box cover and title screen and was not in the game or referred to in any way. <br /><br />I wonder if they only licensed the Elvira image for that purpose and licensed the character herself later, or if they got the rights in 1989 but had already finished Personal Nightmare and were part way through developing what would become Elvira and threw her into a few scenes and changed the story background.TBDhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13815382857422719383noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3387495443226852794.post-9428066234419402052015-02-26T03:20:15.016+11:002015-02-26T03:20:15.016+11:00That's quite a good score, especially consider...That's quite a good score, especially considering this could have been disregarded! I would hope that we'll be able to cover more borderline games in future now that we have a selection of potential reviewers to take on the challenge.<br /><br />Your point about the licensing for the game and not utilising Elvira to her fullest is an interesting one. I wonder if the game had been made a little later on, would we have got a CD/FMV adventure game instead, something similar to 7th Guest? Would that have been better, or worse? (I vote worse, but then I was never a fan of those sorts of adventures...)Andy_Panthrohttps://www.blogger.com/profile/18231815646876343380noreply@blogger.com