tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3387495443226852794.post5697864071317607207..comments2024-03-29T05:52:53.051+11:00Comments on The Adventurers Guild: Eternam - Whoops, Outta Budget! (Won!)The Tricksterhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/01419316208187255801noreply@blogger.comBlogger20125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3387495443226852794.post-84454359450664240642020-10-28T21:22:23.924+11:002020-10-28T21:22:23.924+11:00I worked on this game back then. I am really sorry...I worked on this game back then. I am really sorry the experience was so painful to you but I really, especially years later, understand your points. It was a first game for a lot of the team, and, well, there was a context that probably would inform a lot of the negative points you mention. However I am still pretty proud of a lot of it. Live and learn, right? Best regards.pcharphttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07947233944930602543noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3387495443226852794.post-37747816567092661242020-10-28T21:22:19.327+11:002020-10-28T21:22:19.327+11:00I worked on this game back then. I am really sorry...I worked on this game back then. I am really sorry the experience was so painful to you but I really, especially years later, understand your points. It was a first game for a lot of the team, and, well, there was a context that probably would inform a lot of the negative points you mention. However I am still pretty proud of a lot of it. Live and learn, right? Best regards.pcharphttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07947233944930602543noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3387495443226852794.post-13425524237298433692020-10-28T21:21:33.528+11:002020-10-28T21:21:33.528+11:00I worked on this game back then. I am really sorry...I worked on this game back then. I am really sorry the experience was so painful to you but I really, especially years later, understand your points. It was a first game for a lot of the team, and, well, there was a context that probably would inform a lot of the negative points you mention. However I am still pretty proud of a lot of it. Live and learn, right? Best regards.pcharphttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07947233944930602543noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3387495443226852794.post-90670053632813508592017-03-20T14:05:27.581+11:002017-03-20T14:05:27.581+11:00Personally I enjoy seeing a bad game get really en...Personally I enjoy seeing a bad game get really enthusiastically slammed. I enjoyed these posts.GregThttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01532920274312703426noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3387495443226852794.post-73428116897364384482017-03-09T12:57:29.553+11:002017-03-09T12:57:29.553+11:00Huh, first thing I thought when I saw that book wa...Huh, first thing I thought when I saw that book was "Oh, a reference to Damon Knight" :-P Charleshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04860506019349657883noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3387495443226852794.post-16516103268889131122017-03-08T07:44:01.298+11:002017-03-08T07:44:01.298+11:00I agree that this series has been hard to read. My...I agree that this series has been hard to read. My eyes have been glazing over after about the first paragraph. It's hard to be interested in something when the writer is clearly not interested in it, either.Fryhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07805219432946673379noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3387495443226852794.post-87852089081649933162017-03-08T06:08:57.450+11:002017-03-08T06:08:57.450+11:00Totally fascinating! Thank you.Totally fascinating! Thank you.Kirinnhttp://mooncore.eunoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3387495443226852794.post-64042649534545215742017-03-06T20:32:28.866+11:002017-03-06T20:32:28.866+11:00I love that old episode, and would have mentioned ...I love that old episode, and would have mentioned the Simpsons reference myself if you hadn't already mentioned it in the caption :)<br /><br />And for some bonus trivia that most people probably already know, like many Simpsons 'Treehouse of Horror' episodes, it's a reference to something else, in this case an old Twilight Zone episode.<br /><br />https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/To_Serve_Man_(The_Twilight_Zone)TBDhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13815382857422719383noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3387495443226852794.post-46667628370526079292017-03-06T18:36:28.563+11:002017-03-06T18:36:28.563+11:00It's the only time I can think of in an advent...It's the only time I can think of in an adventure game where a diamond etc was not used to cut glass. I'm surprised that nobody has picked up on the "How to Cook For Humans (for, forty)" bit. It was one of the only references in the game I was able to make sense of, even if Kang and Kodos did it better.Aperamahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13669724908141286435noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3387495443226852794.post-91442365182313693302017-03-06T16:51:26.707+11:002017-03-06T16:51:26.707+11:00While I do normally enjoy surreal humour, the enti...While I do normally enjoy surreal humour, the entirety of Eternam just never struck me the right way, you're quite right. It started off poorly with a trio of bad installs (the first didn't work, the second hadn't circumvented the copy protection properly). I then found a poorly translated manual as the only source I could go with. The 'introduction' very loosely introduces the plot by essentially reading the back cover of the game and 'dropping' you on Eternam. I actually started the game three times before I was sure I'd seen the introduction properly!<br /><br />If the plot were just presented a little bit more coherently I may well have seen past what I saw as fairly tedious gameplay might have actually interested me. Instead, the game just never explained itself, often failed to really tell me if I was doing anything right or not. I decided to harp on the 'poor me' moreso because I found the game quite uninteresting to write about. I started with an attempt at summarizing the plot, but found that useless as the posts were all without any real length. Chronological order didn't exactly help, as the game's expanse having so little within it meant that a great deal of gameplay was backtracking, the majority of which simply never felt particularly warranted. The setting was also very loosely introduced, with several obvious questions never answered (is Don Jonz' 'avatar' dying equal to him dying? Was Mikhal Nuke actually physically on Eternam, or were we trying to chase his avatar which we never saw?) that perhaps they were hoping to save for a sequel, but were otherwise sorely lacking IMHO.<br /><br />Half of the game was jokes where it felt like I was only reading the punchline without a setup. Another quarter was plot, but it was never possible to tell what was plot and what was bad joke. The remaining quarter was puzzles. I was happy with maybe three of those where I saw something, went 'ooh, that might work!' and was rewarded. The interface being more friendly would have helped hugely also. I'm going to do my utmost to be impartial with rating, as I'm willing to admit that this game never felt fun to me.<br /><br />Many apologies if my writing style didn't click (and thank you for the feedback, Icaras) - I was struggling both with time constraints outside of the game and generally not enjoying the game, so I did the best with what I had available.Aperamahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13669724908141286435noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3387495443226852794.post-66152897360101293952017-03-06T16:50:46.549+11:002017-03-06T16:50:46.549+11:00Did I notice a subtle 'Day of the Tentacle'...Did I notice a subtle 'Day of the Tentacle' reference in there?<br /><br />Also, I find the capital "A"s are too distracting. What font are they using and why does it have such ridiculously shaped "A"s?TBDhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13815382857422719383noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3387495443226852794.post-14190769214981012652017-03-06T06:31:42.577+11:002017-03-06T06:31:42.577+11:00I just encountered this fantastic video series whi...I just encountered this fantastic video series which goes over the good sides of Sierra's adventure games and what modern games are missing:<br /><br />https://youtu.be/wua96SI6SBE?list=PLPAVYgFfeddJzax1X4VUj69Z1Vs4PqGlALaukkuhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16258625692586860655noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3387495443226852794.post-43368672343457686142017-03-06T06:26:47.730+11:002017-03-06T06:26:47.730+11:00I cannot really speak for Aperama, but I'll ju...I cannot really speak for Aperama, but I'll just say that each of our reviewers has hers/his distinct style and we try to allow everyone follow their own distinct voice. Personally, I liked Eternam somewhat more than Ape did, mainly because I happen to enjoy surreal humour, but I still enjoyed also his review of the game, which pointed out quite well some of the weaker parts of the game (like lack of a coherent plot).Ilmari Jauhiainenhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01655841880034965950noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3387495443226852794.post-22420990622211216632017-03-05T18:02:54.497+11:002017-03-05T18:02:54.497+11:00Gotta say, I found reading this series painful, ma...Gotta say, I found reading this series painful, mainly because of the negative tone.<br /><br />Hey, I realize not everyone will like/dislike the same things, but...I dunno, it just seems like you didn't give it a chance and decided early on "No...that was weird, I don't like this game" when you'd only just started.<br /><br />IMO, I kinda wish you'd keep the "woe is me" stuff out of the posts, and maybe just noted that you found the style of humor didn't match yours when you get to the review post.<br /><br />But hey, I quite liked Eternam when I played it years ago, so maybe I'm just biased *shrugs*Icarashttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14799319859359545769noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3387495443226852794.post-4110738715747725152017-03-05T13:48:37.192+11:002017-03-05T13:48:37.192+11:00Oh, you didn't notice my link in the first par...Oh, you didn't notice my link in the first paragraph, Ilmari? :)Aperamahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13669724908141286435noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3387495443226852794.post-91158127655565390792017-03-05T11:00:13.282+11:002017-03-05T11:00:13.282+11:00I admire you for your sacrifices... after all, if ...I admire you for your sacrifices... after all, if you guys didn't play them, I might have to!Andy_Panthrohttps://www.blogger.com/profile/18231815646876343380noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3387495443226852794.post-26800470002758614232017-03-05T07:06:44.586+11:002017-03-05T07:06:44.586+11:00Oh well, I'll get to play B.A.T 2 soon, so you...Oh well, I'll get to play B.A.T 2 soon, so you'll get your revenge...Ilmari Jauhiainenhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01655841880034965950noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3387495443226852794.post-19114255914606287122017-03-05T06:50:08.900+11:002017-03-05T06:50:08.900+11:00Thank you. If it's of any solace at all? I bla...Thank you. If it's of any solace at all? I blame Ilmari.Aperamahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13669724908141286435noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3387495443226852794.post-66841062328291697642017-03-05T06:49:54.800+11:002017-03-05T06:49:54.800+11:00Next games Ape gets to play are Laura Bow 2 and Qu...Next games Ape gets to play are Laura Bow 2 and Quest for Glory remake, so he should be in for a treat!Ilmari Jauhiainenhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01655841880034965950noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3387495443226852794.post-16090153193742068132017-03-05T06:34:49.604+11:002017-03-05T06:34:49.604+11:00Congratulations! I hope your next game is a more p...Congratulations! I hope your next game is a more pleasant experience!Andy_Panthrohttps://www.blogger.com/profile/18231815646876343380noreply@blogger.com