tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3387495443226852794.post3695101961686417682..comments2024-03-28T18:43:06.423+11:00Comments on The Adventurers Guild: Heart of China - WON!The Tricksterhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/01419316208187255801noreply@blogger.comBlogger15125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3387495443226852794.post-1748254237798543822016-08-04T02:26:05.916+10:002016-08-04T02:26:05.916+10:00Yeah, it feels weird to complain about a game over...Yeah, it feels weird to complain about a game over twenty years old, but that just got to me for some reason.<br /><br />It's not that I disagree with the ending being bad because Lucky is not the kind of guy to settle down, that's perfectly fine really. But the ending specifically calls out that Lucky only starts to regret his choice once he sees that: "The royal daughter has put on a few..."<br /><br />It just comes off as needlessly insulting and shallow, not from a in-game character point of view, but as a message from the game to the player. It reduces that particular ending to "lol no fatties" and I can't imagine that was any more polite in 1991 than in 2016. <br /><br />I guess games were allowed to get away with a bit more than they are now, though perhaps things aren't terribly better in 2016 either.Raifieldhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08478524519453417677noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3387495443226852794.post-70592532888143943632016-08-03T17:30:52.470+10:002016-08-03T17:30:52.470+10:00When surprised Lucky reminds me of Seinfeld.
But ...When surprised Lucky reminds me of Seinfeld.<br /><br />But only when surprised, like in the last gif here. And the more I see it the less Seinfeldy he looks.TBDhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13815382857422719383noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3387495443226852794.post-83165316705261151062016-08-03T06:18:41.899+10:002016-08-03T06:18:41.899+10:00I imagine if someone went back and tried to find a...I imagine if someone went back and tried to find all of the plot branches, this might end up closer to the "expected" length.Fryhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07805219432946673379noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3387495443226852794.post-43693901644122274442016-08-03T01:14:43.679+10:002016-08-03T01:14:43.679+10:00The Longest Journey apparently takes about 20 hour...<a href="http://howlongtobeat.com/game.php?id=10053" rel="nofollow">The Longest Journey apparently takes about 20 hours.</a> My recent playthrough took 21 and 1/2.<br /><br />YU-NO (if/when it gets played in 1996) will definitely take 40+ hours - maybe even close to 100.<br /><br />The Lost Files of Sherlock Holmes 2 will probably be very long too.<br /><br />Most adventure games are roughly 10 hours at most according to howlongtobeat.com. That site is a great site for playtime averages. Hey... maybe someone (one of our admins?) should submit The Adventure Gamer playtimes there!Laukkuhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16258625692586860655noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3387495443226852794.post-37709668562990713042016-08-03T00:33:18.872+10:002016-08-03T00:33:18.872+10:00The average for all of our other 1991 games is 13....The average for all of our other 1991 games is 13.9 hours, so this does *seem* low to me. The only shorter game in this cycle is Hugo II.<br /><br />I think the trick is that games are getting LONGER. This game exactly falls in line with our average length of non-MC 1987 games, for example. Obviously they aren't getting longer forever, but it might be a fun thing to graph out play time averages per year... Maybe I will work on that...Joe Pranevichhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12997014242774219758noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3387495443226852794.post-73378635381069998802016-08-02T23:49:57.661+10:002016-08-02T23:49:57.661+10:00I'm pretty sure the expression is "then a...I'm pretty sure the expression is "then again", not "there again".<br /><br />*checks online dictionary*<br /><br />Huh... I guess "there" is valid too.Laukkuhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16258625692586860655noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3387495443226852794.post-55841300033670877352016-08-02T19:17:56.575+10:002016-08-02T19:17:56.575+10:00To be honest, the game is very fun. It's just....To be honest, the game is very fun. It's just.. well, it's simple. There's really nowhere to get lost because they've kinda thought of everything, making sure you can prevail more or less no matter where you are. In order to make the game more 'varied', the individual 'areas' all only have a few screens, none of which you can go back to after you exit a city.<br /><br />There again, I can beat Space Quest 1 in under an hour, knowing what I am doing and not stopping to smell the roses. Just that the majority of the 'roses' in this game were actually short cutscenes.Aperamahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13669724908141286435noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3387495443226852794.post-74492642126960181852016-08-02T17:29:17.172+10:002016-08-02T17:29:17.172+10:00And some games are much longer than actual books! ...<a href="http://gaming.wikia.com/wiki/List_of_longest_video_game_scripts" rel="nofollow">And some games are much longer than actual books!</a> I'm currenly reading Brothers Karamazov, which has "only" about <a href="http://commonplacebook.com/art/books/word-count-for-famous-novels/" rel="nofollow">360 000 words</a>. But as said, quality > quantity.Laukkuhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16258625692586860655noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3387495443226852794.post-51704199581181032312016-08-02T12:59:54.628+10:002016-08-02T12:59:54.628+10:00It's funny how differently we measure the leng...It's funny how differently we measure the lengths of different media. If it had been a movie, Joe's reaction might well have been "Five hours???? Who wants to watch so freaking long film???"<br /><br />Just like Charles, I'd much rather play a short, but satisfying adventure game than extend it with some dead ends and pixel hunting. (And no, my approval of HoC has nothing to do with my chance of winning Full House. Absolutely nothing.)Ilmari Jauhiainenhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01655841880034965950noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3387495443226852794.post-69184925981900496262016-08-02T11:39:16.555+10:002016-08-02T11:39:16.555+10:00Awesome, right? No filler, chock-full of action, c...Awesome, right? No filler, chock-full of action, comedy and winks to old-fashioned serials, AND it doesn't overstay its welcome. A big plus in my book! <br />And no, I'm not trying to prevail on Aperama to award the game a high score so that I win the predictions for the top 5 spots. That would be unthinkable.Charleshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04860506019349657883noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3387495443226852794.post-41070673719640090302016-08-02T06:32:43.595+10:002016-08-02T06:32:43.595+10:00Very much agreed. As I've tried to say through...Very much agreed. As I've tried to say throughout, this game is full of rampant stereotyping with a lot of it not so fantastic. The 'stuck in Turkey' ending is understandably less than ideal though, as Lucky is very much a free spirit and it has him essentially locked away by the Nabob's daughter who is unwilling to let Lucky get away again. I removed a little diatribe about that from my writeup as the whole thing just got too long - I trimmed a couple of paragraphs worth, so that went missed. Lucky actually really bugged me (he had a very 'well why wouldn't I have slept with the royal daughter and run out?' styled conversation ready if you went down that path) but the game was really trying to play the 'Indiana Jones' card here - a bit of a womanizer who goes around and essentially manages to get away with just about everything. The manual even declares that it's a 'light-hearted adventure in the feel of Romancing the Stone or Raiders of the Lost Ark', so I don't want to be too harsh about it. I had a little bit of a similar feeling to the way Alex was approaching the 'blackface' scene in Leisure Suit Larry 5, only it at least had a little comeuppance with Kate being very upset with Lucky (though if Lucky shows any sort of genuine remorse, it combined with Kate already feeling for him due to him generally seeming a hero when they first met they still get together.)Aperamahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13669724908141286435noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3387495443226852794.post-404352470850805362016-08-02T05:14:31.741+10:002016-08-02T05:14:31.741+10:00Wow. Only five hours? I wonder how that will affec...Wow. Only five hours? I wonder how that will affect the final score. Does this seem like more of a vignette than a full game? Or are my expectations set too high for the "right" length for an adventure?Joe Pranevichhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12997014242774219758noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3387495443226852794.post-10925958938932892252016-08-02T04:35:49.328+10:002016-08-02T04:35:49.328+10:00I guess we're supposed to expect ending up wit...I guess we're supposed to expect ending up with the princess is bad because she's overweight? And people wonder why there are comparatively few girl gamers out there. Raifieldhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08478524519453417677noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3387495443226852794.post-13967733218057816652016-08-02T01:36:37.705+10:002016-08-02T01:36:37.705+10:00This comment has been removed by the author.Laukkuhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16258625692586860655noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3387495443226852794.post-1065478208521579382016-08-02T01:36:18.574+10:002016-08-02T01:36:18.574+10:00And we get a Everybody Laughs Ending!And we get a <a href="http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/EverybodyLaughsEnding" rel="nofollow">Everybody Laughs Ending</a>!Laukkuhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16258625692586860655noreply@blogger.com