tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3387495443226852794.post1925255266145201665..comments2024-03-29T23:24:51.650+11:00Comments on The Adventurers Guild: Missed Classic 38: Starcross - Introduction (1982)The Tricksterhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/01419316208187255801noreply@blogger.comBlogger18125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3387495443226852794.post-11561669405082449692023-04-06T23:09:44.795+10:002023-04-06T23:09:44.795+10:00Updated version of the map here!
https://www.redd...Updated version of the map here!<br /><br />https://www.reddit.com/r/zork/comments/10tlxfd/new_zork_mapJoe Barlowhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/18209118398547509568noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3387495443226852794.post-6590038854742984612020-04-24T04:37:30.426+10:002020-04-24T04:37:30.426+10:00I had the same problem with the Starcross map. I ...I had the same problem with the Starcross map. I found it very hard to stay oriented and move around. I've still never finished that one.arcanetriviahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02033767865654085177noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3387495443226852794.post-21812729548576822852020-04-23T16:28:08.472+10:002020-04-23T16:28:08.472+10:00I had the original edition of Starcross and I neve...I had the original edition of Starcross and I never made it past the opening scene because I never managed to read the map correctly.<br /><br />I finally played it again years later in Lost Treasures and managed to get through it. That was one hell of a design error which they fixed...Nathanaelnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3387495443226852794.post-59011262658152119352017-03-13T16:15:09.542+11:002017-03-13T16:15:09.542+11:00I just tried to work it out myself and was going t...I just tried to work it out myself and was going to post my results until I saw you'd come up with the same results I did.<br /><br />You need to remember your high school circle mathematics, where range is the radius, theta is the angle in degrees from the top (between 0 and 360) and phi is just some random thing they've blatantly written for you.TBDhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13815382857422719383noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3387495443226852794.post-39530775304838858992017-03-13T01:36:04.403+11:002017-03-13T01:36:04.403+11:003333Laukkuhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16258625692586860655noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3387495443226852794.post-52752109431753684702017-03-13T00:10:54.936+11:002017-03-13T00:10:54.936+11:00Oh sorry, Ilmari got 41, I change my score to 42Oh sorry, Ilmari got 41, I change my score to 42Lupus Yonderboyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00480213869011573953noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3387495443226852794.post-73333565394448882482017-03-12T23:53:25.707+11:002017-03-12T23:53:25.707+11:00As far as I am aware of, this game is loosely base...As far as I am aware of, this game is loosely based on....(could be a spoiler, so i ROT13 it)<br /><br />Eraqrmibhf jvgu Enzn sebz Neguhe P. Pynexr, bar bs gur orfg fpvrapr-svpgvba abiryf rire jevggra. N terng ernq naq n fbeg bs pbzcnavba cvrpr gb guvf tnzr.<br /><br />My guess is 41 for the final score.Lupus Yonderboyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00480213869011573953noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3387495443226852794.post-13468608023280486712017-03-12T00:24:20.180+11:002017-03-12T00:24:20.180+11:00The incongruity is that you find a ship from somew...The incongruity is that you find a ship from somewhere else in our solar system, nowhere near Earth, and they want you to identify Earth on a map. Any other alien lucky enough to find the ship, wouldn't have gotten that right especially since you only get one try. <br /><br />As I get into in the second post, there is some hint that there's a sci-fi "Dungeon Master" behind the scenes but it still doesn't quite make sense to me that they would even start with this specific puzzle. Are they trying to prove intelligence? Because navigating a spacecraft seems like that would be proof enough.Joe Pranevichhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12997014242774219758noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3387495443226852794.post-60132751638065615492017-03-11T21:45:35.955+11:002017-03-11T21:45:35.955+11:00This just raises the question, whether there reall...This just raises the question, whether there really are tiny black holes to harness around our solar system and whether their effect to the movement of planets wouldn't have been detected by now - but I guess we'll just have to suspend our disbelief on that matter.Ilmari Jauhiainenhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01655841880034965950noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3387495443226852794.post-65980870365728213772017-03-11T10:25:46.103+11:002017-03-11T10:25:46.103+11:00With regard to incongruity: I think it's worth...With regard to incongruity: I think it's worth noting that you're not inexplicably finding a depiction of our solar system off in deep Heechee space or wherever - the game itself is actually taking place inside our very solar system (just beyond Mars if I recall correctly). Voltglosshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07893726442063421240noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3387495443226852794.post-75248422277759243052017-03-11T04:13:57.374+11:002017-03-11T04:13:57.374+11:00The puzzle with the bumps would probably make a lo...The puzzle with the bumps would probably make a lot more sense if we had a graphical representation, but alas...Fryhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07805219432946673379noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3387495443226852794.post-63508345746437860152017-03-11T04:13:06.118+11:002017-03-11T04:13:06.118+11:00The key on the right side of the diagram says that...The key on the right side of the diagram says that the line coming off the objects is their vector of motion, i.e. which way they're travelling.<br /><br />Looks like the coordinates for UM08 should be Range 150, Theta 210, Phi 017, though those numbers are certainly a lot harder to work out than the coordinates for UM28. Definitely not helpful that the Theta marking is cut off on the page!Fryhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07805219432946673379noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3387495443226852794.post-87816028842051909382017-03-10T09:20:36.246+11:002017-03-10T09:20:36.246+11:00Absolutely AMAZING painted map based on mainframe ...Absolutely AMAZING painted map based on mainframe Zork. Check it out:<br /><br />https://www.reddit.com/r/zork/comments/5ximil/zork_map_mit_version_fantastic_game_i_spent_some/Joe Pranevichhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12997014242774219758noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3387495443226852794.post-76201033835627562902017-03-10T07:21:29.353+11:002017-03-10T07:21:29.353+11:00I'm going for a lofty score of... 35!
I award...I'm going for a lofty score of... 35!<br /><br />I awarded them 5 points for the box alone.Andy_Panthrohttps://www.blogger.com/profile/18231815646876343380noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3387495443226852794.post-14769384295108242822017-03-10T07:04:56.499+11:002017-03-10T07:04:56.499+11:00I guessed too high last time so I'll guess low...I guessed too high last time so I'll guess low here - 31.<br /><br />And bonus credit for being ahead of their time - a package that would be a perfect fit for a CD long before games were even considered for CDs!TBDhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13815382857422719383noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3387495443226852794.post-73231990190799320302017-03-10T06:04:38.541+11:002017-03-10T06:04:38.541+11:00I don't remember this one well, except that I ...I don't remember this one well, except that I was disappointed about it because I hoped for another Planetfall. I guess it will end up somewhere near Zork III. Let's say 41.Ilmari Jauhiainenhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01655841880034965950noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3387495443226852794.post-25497287335217982017-03-10T03:19:44.095+11:002017-03-10T03:19:44.095+11:00Obvious in retrospect, thanks! And see: even alien...Obvious in retrospect, thanks! And see: even aliens think Pluto is a planet!<br /><br />I absolutely did not catch that it was supposed to represent our solar system and, as you point out, it hardly makes sense that it would. At the very least, it was easy to brute-force so not much of a puzzle at all. Joe Pranevichhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12997014242774219758noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3387495443226852794.post-22532680218728995722017-03-10T02:15:06.999+11:002017-03-10T02:15:06.999+11:00The bumps represent the Sun and the planets in the...The bumps represent the Sun and the planets in the solar system. The fourth bump represents the Earth, and you're from there, so that is the bump to push. Not sure how an ancient alien spacecraft knew that though. It's like the baseball puzzle in Zork II. Nonsensical in the place you find it, but with an obvious solution when you know what you are looking for. I'm pretty sure I got stuck there too.<br /><br />Range, theta, and phi are the variables used in a system of polar co-ordinates. Range represents the distance from the point of origin to the target, while theta and phi represent the angle you have to travel on a flat plane to get there and (in 3 dimensions) the angle you have to travel on the vertical axis.<br /><br />Wikipedia notes that there is no agreement as yet as to which angle is theta and which is phi....<br /><br />https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Spherical_coordinate_systemSplitting Imagehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05280923665951866942noreply@blogger.com