tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3387495443226852794.post1795700352559634655..comments2024-03-29T23:24:51.650+11:00Comments on The Adventurers Guild: Game 32: Neuromancer - Learning the RopesThe Tricksterhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/01419316208187255801noreply@blogger.comBlogger37125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3387495443226852794.post-30096177519127694012015-07-22T09:55:20.051+10:002015-07-22T09:55:20.051+10:00I got excited about this game because I enjoyed th...I got excited about this game because I enjoyed the book. We'll see how long that lasts.DialMforMarahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05991827182885226471noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3387495443226852794.post-79872727886185266922013-07-20T12:01:17.775+10:002013-07-20T12:01:17.775+10:00It's fascinating reading all this now. It seem...It's fascinating reading all this now. It seems everyone playing this goes through the same thought processes!The Tricksterhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01419316208187255801noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3387495443226852794.post-1033042756644503752013-05-25T14:35:23.638+10:002013-05-25T14:35:23.638+10:00I can get to it now. Go figure!
Thanks for the re...I can get to it now. Go figure!<br /><br />Thanks for the reassurences guys.The Tricksterhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01419316208187255801noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3387495443226852794.post-75750375061250085982013-05-25T06:24:08.318+10:002013-05-25T06:24:08.318+10:00Oh wow, you really really want to get your hands o...Oh wow, you really really want to get your hands on NezbeNyy 1.0, it's a life saver!Lars-Erikhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17853818944579785754noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3387495443226852794.post-66909501709035349522013-05-25T03:35:41.435+10:002013-05-25T03:35:41.435+10:00As far as I can tell, you won't get attacked u...As far as I can tell, you won't get attacked until you land your first hit. Although you gain a few seconds, does it last long enough for something else to hit? If not, it seems more like it hinders you than helps. I might try it some more and see.<br /><br />I haven't tried Zvzvp yet. Let me know if you get it to work, could be great to use on some of these bases.Lars-Erikhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17853818944579785754noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3387495443226852794.post-70746247652216045772013-05-25T02:51:45.657+10:002013-05-25T02:51:45.657+10:00Oh yes, there was playing area there also! Now I&#...Oh yes, there was playing area there also! Now I'll just have to figure out how to get there (no spoilers, please).<br /><br />I've tried using Wnzzvrf at the beginning of every ICE battle: I think I gain few seconds more to bash it with something. If there are larger version numbers out there, they might work longer.<br /><br />Have you found any use for Zvzvp 1.0? I suppose it's meant to pbcl gur nggnpxf bs gur VPR, but it just doesn't appear to have any great effect.Ilmari Jauhiainenhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01655841880034965950noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3387495443226852794.post-50395306065629364292013-05-24T20:27:44.054+10:002013-05-24T20:27:44.054+10:00By the way, have you found any particular use for ...By the way, have you found any particular use for Wnzzvrf 1.0? I get what it does, but it doesn't seem to last long enough for it to be any useful.Lars-Erikhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17853818944579785754noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3387495443226852794.post-70775583463964399712013-05-24T20:15:37.780+10:002013-05-24T20:15:37.780+10:00I found another set on gur bgure fvqr bs gur frphe...I found another set on gur bgure fvqr bs gur frphevgl tngr gb gur rnfg, but it's really hard and the first one I tried flatlined me a couple of times. Going back to the places you mentioned to make sure I haven't missed any needed warez there. If not, I might have to see if I can smash their ICE after more tries.Lars-Erikhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17853818944579785754noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3387495443226852794.post-14830098475412153042013-05-24T20:11:25.372+10:002013-05-24T20:11:25.372+10:00Yep, that's probably the best. Well, now I'...Yep, that's probably the best. Well, now I've "cleaned up" both Purnc Ubgry and Tragyrzna Ybfre areas of all AI, and I have no idea where to go next. I'll probably have to do some scouting in the "real world" and find other places to log in.Ilmari Jauhiainenhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01655841880034965950noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3387495443226852794.post-16281131570015437242013-05-24T19:57:23.351+10:002013-05-24T19:57:23.351+10:00Right now V'z hfvat gur Plorefcnpr 1.0, nf vg ...Right now V'z hfvat gur Plorefcnpr 1.0, nf vg frrzf gb abg qenva nal pnfu juvyr fcnpva'.<br /><br />Rot13'ing that to avoid potential spoilers. Seems to work nicely so far.Lars-Erikhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17853818944579785754noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3387495443226852794.post-13298252094868376052013-05-24T19:52:19.045+10:002013-05-24T19:52:19.045+10:00I think I am pretty much in the same position (thi...I think I am pretty much in the same position (this is also where I got stuck in my original playthrough). BTW, what software are you using to log in to cyberspace?Ilmari Jauhiainenhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01655841880034965950noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3387495443226852794.post-5633822812368690422013-05-24T19:41:28.019+10:002013-05-24T19:41:28.019+10:00Just general confusion Ilmari. I think I'm get...Just general confusion Ilmari. I think I'm getting the hang of it now though, after hacking into some bases and finding some explanatory texts about the difference between types of softwarez for instance.<br /><br />Currently leveling up my ICEbreakers and taking down my first AI's.Lars-Erikhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17853818944579785754noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3387495443226852794.post-12840608599612832532013-05-24T19:26:33.513+10:002013-05-24T19:26:33.513+10:00Lars-Erik: Just general confusion or are you stuck...Lars-Erik: Just general confusion or are you stuck somewhere in particular?Ilmari Jauhiainenhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01655841880034965950noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3387495443226852794.post-50962527049308010852013-05-24T17:56:01.642+10:002013-05-24T17:56:01.642+10:00I think I play too many fantasy games. I keep misr...I think I play too many fantasy games. I keep misreading it as Necromancer.TBDhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13815382857422719383noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3387495443226852794.post-14788674555461334322013-05-24T16:52:34.252+10:002013-05-24T16:52:34.252+10:00Neuromancer confuses me.Neuromancer confuses me.Lars-Erikhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17853818944579785754noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3387495443226852794.post-74594310571901122342013-05-23T19:54:15.898+10:002013-05-23T19:54:15.898+10:00I'm investing heavily in chips at the moment, ...I'm investing heavily in chips at the moment, though I'm not quite sure why.Lars-Erikhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17853818944579785754noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3387495443226852794.post-86423620178750877002013-05-23T19:40:08.832+10:002013-05-23T19:40:08.832+10:00Lars-Erik: I know I was teetering on a fine line, ...Lars-Erik: I know I was teetering on a fine line, but I didn't want Tricky to go on a red herring hunt.<br /><br />Zenic: Yes, now I remember that (oh, I could have saved some money...)! So at this stage it's still better to keep your money with you...<br /><br />Just got little more credits, now, how should I spend it?Ilmari Jauhiainenhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01655841880034965950noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3387495443226852794.post-23304513213806247822013-05-23T16:33:53.311+10:002013-05-23T16:33:53.311+10:00Ooh. Thanks Alfred (and of course Lars-Erik and Tr...Ooh. Thanks Alfred (and of course Lars-Erik and Trickster!)<br /><br />Looks like I'll be playing along with the next game.<br /><br />Email incoming soon.TBDhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13815382857422719383noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3387495443226852794.post-70442085785786670042013-05-23T15:03:49.871+10:002013-05-23T15:03:49.871+10:00Getting close to a plaintext hint there, Ilmari. :...Getting close to a plaintext hint there, Ilmari. :p<br /><br />OK, got my cryptology chip. Now to see what this baby can do.Lars-Erikhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17853818944579785754noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3387495443226852794.post-59032860937274452432013-05-23T11:32:42.685+10:002013-05-23T11:32:42.685+10:00Man, I hate having to read lots of text in monosp...Man, I hate having to read lots of text in monospaced fonts. Also there seems to be some zaniness present that I don't remember from the original, we'll have to see how that develops. Canageekhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03770924810559440307noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3387495443226852794.post-57484509119798585092013-05-23T10:32:29.171+10:002013-05-23T10:32:29.171+10:00Ah, I thought the only draw back to selling body p...Ah, I thought the only draw back to selling body parts was having to buy them back at double price. Didn't realize it eats into your CON. Maybe I'll squeeze a couple hours of this in tonight.Zenic Reveriehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16441583549326102945noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3387495443226852794.post-77261850765877839412013-05-23T07:03:07.436+10:002013-05-23T07:03:07.436+10:00I've noticed two things that have to do with t...I've noticed two things that have to do with the above conversation.<br /><br />spoilerish/thing of note about: Lbhe onax nppbhag qbrfa'g frrz gb tb artngvir, naq V qba'g frr nal cranygl gb vafhssvpvrag shaqf.<br /><br />hint/heavy spoiler: Guebjvat lbhefrys ba gur zrepl bs gur pbheg fb sne unf bayl tbggra zr n ursgl svar, 10X, ohg ab qrngu va gur 3 gvzrf V grfgrq vg. Jvgu gur nobir, V qba'g xabj vs gurer'f nal ynfgvat cranygl sbe guvf.Zenic Reveriehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16441583549326102945noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3387495443226852794.post-3225651931919451162013-05-23T03:44:02.757+10:002013-05-23T03:44:02.757+10:00Lars-Erik is right, you don't need to actually...Lars-Erik is right, you don't need to actually be in the first room, it's just something you can do also in the first room.<br /><br />Yes Zenic, you are on the right tracks. I hadn't considered the possibility of doing it second time, and I am not sure if that is possible.<br /><br />Selling body parts is an option, although I wouldn't recommend it, because it's not good for your constitution (that's going to be important later), and buying them back costs more than what you got from selling them.<br /><br />From my first attempt to crack the game, I remember there were some fixed "treasure troves" to be found (if I'd just kept my notes, I might remember where there I to be found...), but I found no real way to grind for money.<br /><br />Personally, I am playing this in a wimpy way and won't bother gathering all the info again, if I happen to die. Then again, I seem to remember the possible deaths at the beginning (Zenic, lbh qba'g tb cvffvat gur nhgubevgvrf, gurl unir thaf), so I haven't died yet. If someone is playing this really hardcore, I'd suggest loading only what you need on your credit chip and leaving the rest on your bank account, so you won't lose all your money, if you happen to get "resurrected".Ilmari Jauhiainenhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01655841880034965950noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3387495443226852794.post-91295277282312958552013-05-23T02:33:11.712+10:002013-05-23T02:33:11.712+10:00I've spent about 3 hours so far learning this ...I've spent about 3 hours so far learning this game, which includes a few playthroughs (I think I'm on my fourth restart), and I feel like I still haven't even scratched the surface. I'm barely on the next day still slumming around bases after talking to Shiva.<br /><br />Oh, and I suppose selling body parts is what you do when you get down to 0 credits now that I think about it.Zenic Reveriehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16441583549326102945noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3387495443226852794.post-918164680865213892013-05-23T02:28:45.133+10:002013-05-23T02:28:45.133+10:00I've already restarted a couple of times. What...I've already restarted a couple of times. What are people's thoughts on using information that I actually haven't gathered in-game, but I've written down from a previous playthrough? I've been trying to stay fairly true and see the information on the screen, but it seems very easy to save, gather a bunch of info, load, and do it more quickly/efficiently.<br /><br />In any case, I was going to ask if it was X, I entered a rot13, and matched a couple words. So, I think I know what you're getting at. I found that in a previous attempt, but V nyfb znantrq gb trg neerfgrq gbb znal gvzrf va gur znffntr cneybe, jnf pneelvat nyy zl perqvgf, naq onfvpnyyl fcvg ba gur whqtr, fb V jnf xvyyrq naq gurl gbbx nyy zl zbarl gb oevat zr onpx gb yvsr. V nyfb unq gur gubhtug gung V'q jnvg gb qb nezvgntr hagvy V pbhyq trg nabgure onax nppbhag naq gel gb fgnpx uvf srr ol fhozvggvat zhygvcyr nppbhagf. V unir ab vqrn vs gung jbhyq jbex.<br /><br />In any case, I'm not really hurting for credits and I have a number of leads. I need to get back to my RPG tonight, but I'm itching to get through some more Neuromancer, or at least catalog my leads. I do wonder what one can do to earn credits if you reach 0 though.Zenic Reveriehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16441583549326102945noreply@blogger.com