tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3387495443226852794.post1420072270247156730..comments2024-03-29T05:52:53.051+11:00Comments on The Adventurers Guild: Game 15: Space Quest II - Holy logjams, Batman!The Tricksterhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/01419316208187255801noreply@blogger.comBlogger21125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3387495443226852794.post-5308181561430789262015-06-28T15:37:23.002+10:002015-06-28T15:37:23.002+10:00You are speaking of Zork-series (which I hope the ...You are speaking of Zork-series (which I hope the blog might pick up sometime in the future). Cave Beaver might be a reference to that, but it's not as well hinted than in the original, at least.Ilmari Jauhiainenhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01655841880034965950noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3387495443226852794.post-74032052887944945542015-06-28T13:15:15.843+10:002015-06-28T13:15:15.843+10:00I know there's a text adventure where, if you ...I know there's a text adventure where, if you go into a dark area, you get eaten by a "grue" that isn't there if you have a light source. Is the Cave Beaver a reference to that?DialMforMarahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05991827182885226471noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3387495443226852794.post-61569081673479517122012-04-13T11:04:46.141+10:002012-04-13T11:04:46.141+10:00I had the same experience in King's Quest. The...I had the same experience in King's Quest. The first time I played it I had no idea about the diagonal movement keys, which made going up and down the massive stairs to the cloud section really hard (left, right, left, right, left, right etc.). I think there was a part where a dwarf is chasing you there, so I died about a hundred times before I finally figured out how to do it.The Tricksterhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01419316208187255801noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3387495443226852794.post-56381685330294072272012-04-12T00:51:36.428+10:002012-04-12T00:51:36.428+10:00Take breath would be easy, since you just make an ...Take breath would be easy, since you just make an invisible object (or a 1 pixel one) called breath, that gets used up when you dive down to that area.Canageekhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03770924810559440307noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3387495443226852794.post-73526233963518195582012-04-11T22:38:24.811+10:002012-04-11T22:38:24.811+10:00I remember following Bains up the stairs in Police...I remember following Bains up the stairs in Police Quest. I was pressing the keyboard arrows like crazy, but always ended up way behind him. I think there actually was a game over if you "lost" him.<br /><br />Imagine my surprise when I figured out you could use the numpad to walk diagonally and that way climb those stairs with one press of a button...Kristianhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00435291900730139850noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3387495443226852794.post-51255629133682518052012-04-11T17:38:34.345+10:002012-04-11T17:38:34.345+10:00Rock is in the previous screen, remains of the wal...Rock is in the previous screen, remains of the wall left by the Beast.Ilmari Jauhiainenhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01655841880034965950noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3387495443226852794.post-58299572966066012952012-04-11T14:06:27.113+10:002012-04-11T14:06:27.113+10:00Spot on! 10 easy points coming your way Zenic.
I&...Spot on! 10 easy points coming your way Zenic.<br /><br />I'd love to play through simultaneously. It would make for a very interesting read for everyone as we're likely to have different views and face different challenges.<br /><br />Pick a game that you think you'd enjoy and we'll plan for it.The Tricksterhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01419316208187255801noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3387495443226852794.post-81979137224173304492012-04-11T14:01:53.493+10:002012-04-11T14:01:53.493+10:002001: A Space Odyssey (V'z fbeel Qnir, V'z...2001: A Space Odyssey (V'z fbeel Qnir, V'z nsenvq V pna'g qb gung.) and Battlestar Galactica (Yrg'f trg gur senx bhg bs urer!)?<br /><br />I should play one of these games with you. Maybe something you haven't played before though so I don't get lost in your wake.Zenic Reveriehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16441583549326102945noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3387495443226852794.post-77472997019696289082012-04-11T09:27:42.656+10:002012-04-11T09:27:42.656+10:0010 points for the first person that can tell me th...10 points for the first person that can tell me the movie AND the TV show I referenced in my captions.<br /><br />No points for getting one correct. That's too easy!The Tricksterhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01419316208187255801noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3387495443226852794.post-20773311394571784622012-04-11T09:21:08.112+10:002012-04-11T09:21:08.112+10:00Yeah, they were really trying to push the parser a...Yeah, they were really trying to push the parser and engine to the limit on this game, with varying results. There are a few time restricted puzzles later as well that give the game more of a cinematic feel (getting trapped between barriers with the floor moving away to reveal acid, and having to avoid droids in real time).The Tricksterhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01419316208187255801noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3387495443226852794.post-3194030316799918542012-04-11T09:14:38.475+10:002012-04-11T09:14:38.475+10:00I think the majority of those items are pretty obv...I think the majority of those items are pretty obvious though, so I don't take exception to them. It's clear you need to do something with the mailbox, so getting the whistle is easy. The spore pods are right in front of you on the same screen.<br /><br />It's the gem that I think people might miss, and I did, even though I'd played the game previously. You're right though. None of these are as harsh as the cartridge or the jetpack items in Space Quest I.The Tricksterhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01419316208187255801noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3387495443226852794.post-21538676782085477052012-04-11T09:12:30.439+10:002012-04-11T09:12:30.439+10:00Well that's just another one of my Sierra pet ...Well that's just another one of my Sierra pet hates. Leaving a screen and coming back should not solve a puzzle for you. It happens a lot in the King's Quest series.The Tricksterhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01419316208187255801noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3387495443226852794.post-5314381450504882012-04-11T09:11:50.610+10:002012-04-11T09:11:50.610+10:00Aha...that makes sense. The reason I didn't se...Aha...that makes sense. The reason I didn't see this is because I saved the little dude after getting the berries and just before I went to the swamp. Therefore I never saw him rubbing them on his body.<br /><br />I assume if I hadn't known the solution I would have revisited other screens and eventually seen the hint.<br /><br />I don't think the Cubix Rube puzzle is difficult at all (there's not much else you can do at this point), but it still doesn't make a lot of sense.<br /><br />Thanks Eugene.The Tricksterhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01419316208187255801noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3387495443226852794.post-50090879470328397852012-04-11T09:09:08.643+10:002012-04-11T09:09:08.643+10:00I didn't know you could do that. Where's t...I didn't know you could do that. Where's the rock? On that screen somewhere?<br /><br />I took the stealth approach.The Tricksterhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01419316208187255801noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3387495443226852794.post-81492743166661744912012-04-11T07:54:10.482+10:002012-04-11T07:54:10.482+10:00The reason for all these dead ends is that you cou...The reason for all these dead ends is that you could probably finish the game in about an hour if you knew what you were doing.<br /><br />My most recent play-through took me about 90mins (including having to reload a few times).<br /><br />As for the cave beaver, I always assumed that whatever lived in the darkness would be scared away by the light from the gem.Andy_Panthrohttps://www.blogger.com/profile/18231815646876343380noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3387495443226852794.post-79670363239374257572012-04-11T07:24:59.448+10:002012-04-11T07:24:59.448+10:00I confess that I still remember the "take bre...I confess that I still remember the "take breath" part as a really tricky one, even if it's logical, it's not an approach you're used to in adventure games. It took me a really long time to figure this one out, and they should really have put some kind of hint. You have to appreciate the fact that the two guys of andromeda were trying new things with the text parser, though.Alfred n the Fettuchttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15586336731691674651noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3387495443226852794.post-52270024395534240232012-04-11T05:52:44.841+10:002012-04-11T05:52:44.841+10:00This game has so many "Hey you didn't get...This game has so many "Hey you didn't get an item before moving on to this part? Game over man, game over!" parts in it.<br /><br />The gem, the spore pod, the whistle, the puzzle (ok only kind of because as Ilmari pointed out you can just walk out of the screen for a lower point score), making sure you save the guy at the start, making sure you turn off the transponder of the crash at the start. At least the amount you have to back track is relativity small, and that it doesn't do the horror of Space Quest 1 where you can miss the cartridge at the start and not find out until the very end.Tkhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03774234824088860077noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3387495443226852794.post-82968420647490149202012-04-11T04:31:58.321+10:002012-04-11T04:31:58.321+10:00I agree with Eugene that surviving the swamp is ra...I agree with Eugene that surviving the swamp is rather obvious, if you've saved the little guy. (By the way, if you don't rescue him, his fellow tribesmen will stone you to death.) But the Labion Terror Beast whistle is quite an unfair puzzle (but you don't necessarily need the Cube to tame the Beast - you can just walk to the previous screen and the Beast will have vanished when you return).Ilmari Jauhiainenhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01655841880034965950noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3387495443226852794.post-54003114962322855722012-04-11T01:42:31.182+10:002012-04-11T01:42:31.182+10:00The game is very fair with the berries puzzle. Lo...The game is very fair with the berries puzzle. Look at the little dude you rescued whenever you run into him, and you'll see he shows you what to do. (You see him picking berries from the bush, and rubbing something on his body.) <br /><br />I also vaguely remember some sort of hint with the Cubix Rube/Terror Beast puzzle. I can't remember what it was, but I had zero problem with it when I reached that screen.Eugenehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01040874637214905870noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3387495443226852794.post-69064332810780396512012-04-11T01:31:42.554+10:002012-04-11T01:31:42.554+10:00Thanks for the shoutout, even though it proves my ...Thanks for the shoutout, even though it proves my memory of esoteric quotes is deteriorating. There are several ways to get past those guards, I always used the jock strap as a sling to toss a rock at the guard.BacklogKillerhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00638617207043621777noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3387495443226852794.post-34137273994787445422012-04-10T23:10:57.775+10:002012-04-10T23:10:57.775+10:00I've taken a slightly different approach with ...I've taken a slightly different approach with this post in response to some requests. Smaller paragraphs with more screenshots, but a similar amount of content all up.<br /><br />Feedback welcome as usual. :)The Tricksterhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01419316208187255801noreply@blogger.com